Posts by pale.emperor

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Police Raid on Dutch Branch Office, 2 kingdom halls and 4 private houses related to child sexual abuse

by Not_Culty in

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/4508841/politie-invallen-bij-hoofdkantoor-en-kerkgebouwen-jehovahs.

police raids at head office and church buildings jehovah's witnesses for abuse.

the police attacked three of the buildings of jehovah's witnesses on november 19 as part of a major investigation into sexual abuse.. the police came in at the head office of the religious community in emmen and at two church buildings, so-called kingdom halls.

pale.emperor

It's about time. The Watchtower society have been trying to stave off this for a long time:

2 May 2018 - https://nltimes.nl/2018/05/02/nearly-300-reports-sexual-abuse-among-dutch-jehovahs-witnesses

22 May 2018 - https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/05/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-calls-for-independent-inquiry-into-sexual-abuse/

3 August 2018 - https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/08/jehovahs-witnesses-refuse-to-hand-over-evidence-in-sexual-abuse-case/

So the Dutch authorities take it by force, and good on them:

6 December 2018 - https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/12/police-raid-jehovahs-witness-buildings-in-sexual-abuse-inquiries/

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What would make an Ex-Jw go back to been a full in Baptized JW

by LOLS in

i was just wondering , why would my jw husband return to been a full blown baptized jw after 20 years of fading?.

he has spent 20 years of his life been a worldly person , with a worldly wife & kids & worldly friends .... to joining the borg full time , to getting baptized , to getting new brothers & sisters .... and to writing off most of his worldly friends (some his known his whole life ) , to trying to convince me & our children how wonderful this org is ......and anyone else who will listen :(.

has anyone ever experienced this ...... oh and he seems to be in it 110% and no-one can say anything about this crazy org or show him proof that it all bs...... his such a clever independent , successful guy , why on earth would he go back to this , after been out for so many years & change into this domineering , opinionated fool ..... oh and his entire family also went back ... father , mother , brother & sister .

pale.emperor

There are people who have this worry that "but what if it's true?!!" - the cult mentality never really left.

The only thing that would make me go back is a lobotomy.

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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

by cofty in

i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

pale.emperor

Where did all the water come from ? Scientists still haven't got a clue just bogus made up theorys.

I cant help laughing out loud here. Was this a serious question? In order for a "theory" to be published and acknowledged it has to go through very rigorous scrutiny by other scientists who are there to actually look for flaws in the theory, rip it apart and discredit it - if it withstands all that then it's published and accepted as a legitimate theory (or model).

You know the idea that the earth goes around the sun? That's a theory.

The water cycle? That's a theory.

Gravity? That's a theory.

If anything, it's science that's debunking other scientists and previous knowledge.

Evolution is a fact, just like gravity, astrophysics and the water cycle is a fact - how it happened is where we have the theories.

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Evolution is a Fact #31 - Ten Questions for Creationists

by cofty in

i thought this would be a good time to pose some questions based on the series so far.. if creationism is true these should be easy.

answers that don't involve copy-paste would be really interesting to read.. ... .

1. since some proteins can be assembled in more ways than there are atoms in the universe why do the sequences of amino acids and bases vary between species in exactly the way evolution predicts?

pale.emperor

If you're up for a laugh, check out this entire website by creationists "debunking" evolution, natural selection and even the fossil and DNA record... it's hilarious.

https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/

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Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i sneakily read his books at work.

it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

pale.emperor

He certainly did. In fact, without it I could well have still been in the cult by now.

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2018 Service Year Report

by Rattigan350 in

is there any word on what the results are for the 2018 service year report?.

pale.emperor

I cant find it. Does anyone have a direct link?

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Do you know who wrote ...

by vienne in

do you know who wrote the 1959 watchtower book jehovah's witnesses in the divine purpose?

anyone?.

pale.emperor

It that the book where at the end the couple decide to not have children until after armageddon?

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Leaders or liars

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

i was a thriving regular pioneer, doing all thr things wholeheartedly, had 16 bible studies, 7 attending meetings regularly, 11 magazine routes and 100's of rv's.

you can imagine i was always runnin out of literature and always a good list of books to order every month.

(not bragging,just stating facts.all this is wasted anyway).

pale.emperor

You know this is the 4th time you've started this very same thread right?

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4919499942789120/leaders-liars

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4793362524667904/leaders-liars

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5141850718470144/leaders-liars

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Faders Needing a Great One Liner

by Solzhenitsyn in

so our family fade is well under way.

we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".

we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.

pale.emperor

woah, woah, woah. First of all...

lots of debauched teens and single moms that dress like whores that keep them incredibly busy

Which cong is this again? I may pay a visit.

As for the one liner, how about "I heard some apostate teaching about an overlapping generation or something? This contradicts the religion I was baptized into."

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2018 Service Year Report

by Rattigan350 in

is there any word on what the results are for the 2018 service year report?.

pale.emperor

It's not hard to fudge the numbers of preaching hours in the stats. All you have to do is let them start reporting even increments of 15mins - those 15mins all add up you know.

Then let them count preaching hours PER PERSON even if they're just standing next to a literature stand.

Oh... wait...