Posts by pale.emperor

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Anyone know of elders talking private KH matters to wifes?

by Tobyjones262 in

i knew of several elders who would tell their wife's everything that happened in a committee meeting.

he is still and elder and very old but i doubt he has changed.

we used to call him.

pale.emperor

My ex-father in law is an elder. He'd discuss judicial committee details at the family dinner table "for fun". We used to while away hours after dinner drinking wine and talking about brother-masturbator and what his favorite porn is, sister so-and-so who's been on a vacation with a non-JW man but assures us that nothing happened or brother and sister X who video taped themselves having sex and confessed to the elders.

It happens - 100%.

Not gonna lie, it was intriguing learning about the brothers and sisters in the hall. You'd never look at "poster girl pioneer" the same way after you've learned she has a dildo collection.

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Tony Morris Talk: "This Is It!"

by pale.emperor in

can anyone direct me to the tony "tightpants" morris talk he gave in the agm where he revealed the new king of the north?

i'm told via the jw grapevine it was entitled "this is it!"..

is there a video?

pale.emperor

Can anyone direct me to the Tony "Tightpants" Morris talk he gave in the AGM where he revealed the new King Of The North? I'm told via the JW grapevine it was entitled "This is it!".

Is there a video?

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Did you actually read the bible end to end?

by Ultimate Axiom in

in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

pale.emperor

I did at least twice. Leviticus was one hard slog I can tell you.

I also read the Book Of Mormon and the Koran. They were easier to read as there's less there. But the Book Of Mormon was more fairy tales.

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Crisis of Conscience is being delivered to my door today. I can't wait

by Fognomore in

since i have no one else to talk to about what i am going through, i just thought i would let this group know that i have .

crisis of conscience coming to my front door today.

i already know what i will say if my wife says something.

pale.emperor

It was a life changing read for me and many of us on here, you’re in for a gripping read and quite an education. I’m planning to read it again and take notes.

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Demon Posessed Rock Bands I couldn’t listen to

by hoser in

jw
friends

kiss.

steve miller band (abracadabra).

eagles.

pale.emperor

Led Zeppelin (due to the alleged backmasking of Stairway To Heaven)

Guns N Roses

The Eagles (the lyrics to Hotel California relegated them to “demonic”)

Marilyn Manson (altho I was secretly a fan for years even while a believer)

Iron Maiden

Black Sabbath

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WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

wt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.

lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.

after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.

pale.emperor

It must be scary though, especially in a country that has little or no welfare. Being kicked to the curb in your middle ages or later and expected to find a home, job etc and never an option to retire because you've no savings.

I get it, the ones who joined Bethel probably thought they'd be there when the big A comes.

Good thing it's "just around the corner" otherwise I'd be terrified of wasting my youth, energy and time in Bethel when I could be living my life and preparing for the future.

But what do I know, I'm "mentally diseased".

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If My Dad Were To See The Watchtower Org Now

by pale.emperor in

as we all know, this org has metamorphosized from one ugly creature to another continuously since it's inception.

but more so it seems in the last 30 years.. i got to thinking what my dad would think if he were to be brought to life for 5 mins to see the way things are now.

how would he even react?.

pale.emperor

I was still in (and an 80% believer) when they stopped the ministry school. No more talks from the platform for pale.emperor. I genuinely enjoyed giving talks and studying a subject. When that ended it didn't make sense. The elders were acting all excited and upbeat about it as if it was a wonderful change but you could tell they were putting it on. Even they didn't understand the change.

As for those that've been in for decades, I can totally understand why they'd prefer the safety of not confronting their doubts. Where else would they go? It is worth losing friends you've had 30+ years? Is it worth losing your children, brothers, sisters or parents? The propaganda in the literature and videos always show ex-members as bitter, selfish and dangerous.

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Flat Earth and Jw. Not possible?

by Earthmeasured in

sorry for my poor english, i hope to make not too many mistakes.

im a jw and in the last three years i have studied a lot the topic of the earth being flat.

i have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

pale.emperor

I have a good scientific background so im not stupid or crazy.

Are you sure?

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If My Dad Were To See The Watchtower Org Now

by pale.emperor in

as we all know, this org has metamorphosized from one ugly creature to another continuously since it's inception.

but more so it seems in the last 30 years.. i got to thinking what my dad would think if he were to be brought to life for 5 mins to see the way things are now.

how would he even react?.

pale.emperor

As we all know, this org has metamorphosized from one ugly creature to another continuously since it's inception. But more so it seems in the last 30 years.

I got to thinking what my dad would think if he were to be brought to life for 5 mins to see the way things are now. How would he even react?

My dad died in 2004. One thing he was sure of (because, why wouldn't he be? It was printed in a Watchtower) was that "the new system™" would definitely be here before 2035 because "the bible says" some of the generation of 1914 will still be alive when the great tribulation starts.

The King of the North was Satan.

He was so glad to belong to a religion that doesn't advertise it's leaders - why, didn't even know their names! Surely this shows how humble they are.

Look at those silly religions with not getting out there preaching. See the cowardly, lukewarm preaching styles they have like televangelism.

And this religion has never asked him for money.

And there's no logo for this religion!

I think he'd be shocked to say the least that his beloved org has become something akin to a business model or an advertising company.

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At 1.4% growth the last 2 years, it's safe to say, jw.org and cart witnessing is an abject failure!

by nowwhat? in

so much for jehovah blessing this new arrangement.

they are barely keeping up with the birthrate!

so basically the org spent millions of dollars on their website and broadcasting so the only growth they are still getting comes from born ins and illiterate and superstitious folks from africa.

pale.emperor

I was talking to one today in town. He was under the shelter of a shoe shop in the rain. I made a friendly comment about him choosing the wrong day to be out and said my sister is a JW (which is true. I never let on that I'm a former member).

I asked how he's finding it and he said, and I quote, "Yeah, it's going good. We're not interested in placing magazines or books anymore. We just want people to see the sign and maybe they'll visit our website."

I made polite chit-chat and left.

Maybe they'll visit the website?

My grandfather would turn in his grave.