Posts by pale.emperor

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Ignorance of Watchtower doctrine among young JW's

by nicolaou in

i've been having a conversation with a young jw on twitter and have, once again, come up against beliefs that do not match up with official watchtower doctrine.

if you like you can read the full thread here (you'll need to click on some comments to open it all up).. anyway the upshot is that this jw, and many like her, believe that only truly wicked people will be killed at armageddon - not innocent babies and children or anyone who "didn't know better" perhaps because they didn't get a witness.

it's as though they cannot accept the obvious injustice of jehovah's morality.. this jw teenager believes that all these non-jw's who survive armageddon will get their chance to prove their loyalty during the 1000 year reign of christ - again, not a watchtower teaching.. i don't really have a question to ask, this is just an observation.

pale.emperor

I actually believed the same when I was a member. It wasn't until I was waking up that it was pointed out to me on JWFacts.

I do think that most JWs still think this because lately the literature doesn't come out and so it so clearly. When in doubt, they refer to their website's FAQ which tiptoes around the issue and doesn't give a straight answer, instead explaining that there will be "worldly" people resurrected in the new system.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/who-saved/

Notice the question is worded about being "saved" not surviving Armageddon.

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My Bible Study Conductor's Letter to Me

by ohnightdivine in

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recently, i wrote a sister, my bible study conductor, an email just telling her that i thought of her, and i thanked her for being a part of some milestones in my life many many years ago.

(for those who are reading my post for the first time, i was a very impressionable teenager at that time and i had the chance to live in their country for a while, spent much time with her, got to know her way of living, and essentially she became my life's mentor.

closer to me than family.

pale.emperor

I think would be very happy if I heard those words from you...

She wants you to say something to make her happy. How come she cant be happy regardless of what you say?

I'd bin her off.

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DA/DF Difference?

by Olig in

evening again.... i know this is my second part today but i've just been thinking.... possibly a stupid question, so don't laugh haha!.

can someone explain the difference between disassociation and disfellowshipping?.

never really heard of disassociation before if i'm totally honest!.

pale.emperor

Exactly... almost sounds like a cult or something doesn’t it?

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Governing Body of JW's - Bare-faced LIARS!

by The Fall Guy in

w11 8/15 p. 22 questions from readers - “we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

the governing body does not keep a list of all partakers.. see this - s-21-e congregation's publisher record (2018-12).pdf

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6255453529964544/2019-elders-manual-whole-lot-more.

pale.emperor

"Other sheep"

Looking back at it now, how derogatory to allow ourselves to be called sheep. A farm animal that's fleeced and lead around.

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Theramin Trees Video Re: Royal Commission

by pale.emperor in

if you haven’t seen these two videos yet, you need to.

absolutely outstanding work by theramin trees explaining and breaking down the arc:.

https://youtu.be/tsvjmlg_sam.

pale.emperor

I couldn't believe the elders being called to the stand hadn't even bothered to follow to proceedings of the investigation. If it were me being called to court for something so serious you can guarantee I'd have read everything and watched everything even taking notes.

But then, I actually care about the welfare of children.

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Theramin Trees Video Re: Royal Commission

by pale.emperor in

if you haven’t seen these two videos yet, you need to.

absolutely outstanding work by theramin trees explaining and breaking down the arc:.

https://youtu.be/tsvjmlg_sam.

pale.emperor

If you haven’t seen these two videos yet, you need to. Absolutely outstanding work by theramin trees explaining and breaking down the ARC:

https://youtu.be/TsvJMlg_SaM

https://youtu.be/6F58ZJt_qYU

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BLONDIE’S FIRST THOUGHTS WT STUDY ON 2/3/2019 (NOVEMBER 2018, PAGES 23-27(JEHOVAH’S THOUGHTS)

by blondie in

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blondie’s first thoughts wt study on 2/3/2019 (november 2018, pages 23-27(jehovah’s thoughts).

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-november-2018/making-gods-thoughts-your-own/.

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

pale.emperor

I love your post, but I swear I lose brain cells for each sentence in a Watchtower that I read.

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Are the younger generation taking on roles in the Cong?

by purrpurr in

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i notice that several of the congs i've been to seem to have a majority of the male roles performed by older men.

very few young men are wanting to be ms or elders etc.

it also seems like very few young people are being pioneers either.. would you agree with this?

pale.emperor

In my last cong it was a recurring "local needs" talk. One particular elder was always banging on about the younger brothers not reaching out. It used to piss me off when I was a believer because i really was doing all I could and other young brothers said the same. The forget that I was working full time, raising a newborn baby and was the stand-in talk guy. The only thing was my ministry. It would do an hour on Saturday and that was it. What more did they want? Sacrifice my time with my wife and baby to count pennies from the contribution box or kiss elders asses?

Fuck that shit.

I never wanted to be a MS or elder, more work, more bullshit.

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I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

by Matthew Jefferson in

my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

pale.emperor

I have had 9 months of the a great honor and privlage to be associated with such amazing people and to aid such a phenomenal organization. I am, and have stated to my friends of my Kingdom Hall that if anyone were to harm the organization, I will do anything to my ability to come to their [the organization's] defense. I have said, ''If their is a 'watchtower', I will be a gaurd in it to aid in defence of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

And yet you wont join.

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Anyone know of elders talking private KH matters to wifes?

by Tobyjones262 in

i knew of several elders who would tell their wife's everything that happened in a committee meeting.

he is still and elder and very old but i doubt he has changed.

we used to call him.

pale.emperor

My ex-father in law is an elder. He'd discuss judicial committee details at the family dinner table "for fun". We used to while away hours after dinner drinking wine and talking about brother-masturbator and what his favorite porn is, sister so-and-so who's been on a vacation with a non-JW man but assures us that nothing happened or brother and sister X who video taped themselves having sex and confessed to the elders.

It happens - 100%.

Not gonna lie, it was intriguing learning about the brothers and sisters in the hall. You'd never look at "poster girl pioneer" the same way after you've learned she has a dildo collection.