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  Warwick is an ASS

  by lastmanstanding in

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  google earth warwick and turn the map upside down.

  it’s as clear as a bell.. i have been looking at satellite images of assembly halls because of the one in denmark being a pagan design of an all seeing eye like on the us dollar etc.. so i said, what the hell does warwick look like from space?.

  question answered.

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  Warwick is an ASS

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  google earth warwick and turn the map upside down.

  it’s as clear as a bell.. i have been looking at satellite images of assembly halls because of the one in denmark being a pagan design of an all seeing eye like on the us dollar etc.. so i said, what the hell does warwick look like from space?.

  question answered.

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  lastmanstanding

  Google Earth Warwick and turn the map upside down. It’s as clear as a bell.

  I have been looking at satellite images of assembly halls because of the one in Denmark being a pagan design of an all seeing eye like on the US dollar etc.

  So I said, what the hell does Warwick look like from space?

  Question answered. It’s an ass.
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  Remark at memorial about growing annointed numbers

  by Gorbatchov in

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  don’t know if it was part of the script.. at the memorial the remark about growing annointed numbers including this numbers from 2015 to 2017 was made (from 13.000 to 18.000+).. reason for the growing numbers could be:.

  - feeling annointed because of former believe.

  - psychical reasons.

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  lastmanstanding

  Flipp said

  The GB will pull any reason out of their anus to make anything work.

  Thats good.

  
  
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  The implement of Christ’s death

  by lastmanstanding in

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  simple physics.. the timber that was used to execute jesus had to be substantial.

  thus, its weight could not have been carried entirely, but rather it had to be dragged.. get a log with no crosspiece, one substantial enough to nail a man to, and try to drag it through town.

  try to get a hold of it without it sliding out of your grip.

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  lastmanstanding

  Wearing a cross, to me, is sad and speaks to a false faith.

  Jesus was almost certainly “lifted up” on a cross, because that was the Roman method.

  And if a cross was used today as a symbol, or a fish as some have used, as a reference, then it is just a method of communicating that what lies beyond it is connected to Christ.

  But that is not why Catholicity involves the wearing of a cross. Catholics wear a cross in a superstitious way, like people wearing garlic to chase away evil spirits. And they used other idols, Mary dolls etc, for the same superstitious reason.

  I personally am fully convinced, by the Scriptures and by history, that Jesus was “lifted up” on a timber with a crossbeam.

  I am also fully convinced that wearing a cross is not Christian. It’s superstition.
  
  
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  The implement of Christ’s death

  by lastmanstanding in

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  simple physics.. the timber that was used to execute jesus had to be substantial.

  thus, its weight could not have been carried entirely, but rather it had to be dragged.. get a log with no crosspiece, one substantial enough to nail a man to, and try to drag it through town.

  try to get a hold of it without it sliding out of your grip.

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  Ratt

  Your first statement, out the gate, is false and is the product of Watchtower brainwashing.

  The scriptures you quote say nothing about the timber that the Christ was “lifted up” with.

  The Scriptures, quite to the contrary, say “tree” and a “tree” is NOT a straight post. A tree has branches. Acts 5:30 says tree.

  The serpent in the wilderness was lifted up, it what it was lifted up on is irrelevant, one way or the other. The Israelites needed to look at the serpent, not the stick it was on.
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  The implement of Christ’s death

  by lastmanstanding in

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  simple physics.. the timber that was used to execute jesus had to be substantial.

  thus, its weight could not have been carried entirely, but rather it had to be dragged.. get a log with no crosspiece, one substantial enough to nail a man to, and try to drag it through town.

  try to get a hold of it without it sliding out of your grip.

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  lastmanstanding

  The Romans were doing the executing factory style. Jesus was not the first ever and it was not as if their method was just invented that day. They had a system. It was a regular event. The poles and such would get reused over and over.

  The condemned were subjected to all kinds of brutality prior to the actual lifting up. They would be exhausted. Jesus all the more so. There’s no way a person who was beaten and abused as was Jesus, could drag a pole, without even a way to grip it, the distance.

  In fact, Simon from Cyrene was impressed into carrying whatever Jesus crucifiction required, Jesus was beat that bad.

  I am not going to say that I know exactly how it was done, but certain things shine through. According to the Gospels, Jesus was nailed hand and foot. He would not have been nailed until he was on site at Golgotha. So, the idea that he was tied with ropes to a crosspiece and then later untied and nailed does not add up to an efficient Roman system.

  The timbers used would have been brought into town as part of the system. It was part of the whole action to first force the condemned to carry their timber the distance through town, a public humiliation and torture meant for all to see, such that people learned to fear the Romans. It was for effect. It was terrorism.

  Jesus was abused beyond the norm, such that even the Romans could see it was not business as usual. Hence Simon was employed.

  Yes, a condemned prisoner could drag a pole, with a crosspiece to grab on to, through town and up to Golgotha. It would have been difficult, for sure. But that was the point, as the condemned was going to be killed. And it was a painful spectacle.

  But a single pole, with no means to grip it, would be ridiculous. And it would be historically inconsistent.

  If Jesus was tied to a crosspiece first, and that is all He had to manage, did they then unite him from it and tie Simon to it? I think not.

  The Roman system needed to be simple and uncomplicated and able to be reused efficiently. And the site at Golgotha would certainly have had prepared and fortified holes for the timbers to drop into. It was, after all, a public torture and execution chamber. They didn’t dig the holes that day.

  To have the condemned using every ounce of energy trying to grasp the straight pole would mean they would tire long before getting to the site. I’d like to see it tried.
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  The implement of Christ’s death

  by lastmanstanding in

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  simple physics.. the timber that was used to execute jesus had to be substantial.

  thus, its weight could not have been carried entirely, but rather it had to be dragged.. get a log with no crosspiece, one substantial enough to nail a man to, and try to drag it through town.

  try to get a hold of it without it sliding out of your grip.

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  lastmanstanding

  Simple physics.

  The timber that was used to execute Jesus had to be substantial. Thus, its weight could not have been carried entirely, but rather it had to be dragged.

  Get a log with no crosspiece, one substantial enough to nail a man to, and try to drag it through town. Try to get a hold of it without it sliding out of your grip.

  The Romans were brutal, but they were not stupid. They “lifted up”, as was the term, many a person. The condemned, as a rule, would have proved that it was generally impossible to drag a straight beam all the way up to Golgotha.

  Now, affix a crossbeam and even a beaten and hungry and exhausted man can bear the cross all the way.

  A “stake”indeed.
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  July 2018 WT points

  by The Fall Guy in

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  page 16, par.

  18 carefully follow the latest directions.. do we faithfully follow the latest directions that jehovah has given us?

  if so, we will not rely on always doing things the way we have done them in the past.

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  Me: Brother elder, how is it that the direction from the GB can be in error, aren’t they a channel to God?

  Elder: Well, they are imperfect and can make a mistake.

  Me: The direction that they get is from Jehovah, correct?

  Elder: Yes, absolutely.

  Me: Is that direction ever in error?

  Elder: Never!

  Me: So if the GBs direction was ever in error, how did that error get in there?

  Elder: Because the GB is imperfect.

  Me: So the GB gets perfect direction from Jehovah and then passes it off to us with flaws... they taint it with their own ideas?

  Elder: Well, they ... I....

  Me: So they don’t purposely take perfect divine direction that they were given and alter it with imperfections, do they just forget what they heard or allow their own opinions to overwhelm Gods messages?

  Elder: Well, they are not perfect... and you...

  Me: Did Moses ever allow his imperfections to change the message that he was charged with conveying to Israel?

  Elder: The GB is not Moses.

  Me: That sounds like apostasy as the Watchtower has time and again compared words like yours to the “sons of Korah” in the articles comparing the GB to Moses.

  Elder: You are a troublemaker and sound apostate.

  Me: I sound apostate? You are the one who contradicts the Watchtower when it compares the GB to Moses.

  This conversation never happened, not to me, at least not yet. But it makes the point.

  The JWs will travel in the dub circle ⭕️ round and round they go. Like a tall man running through the dining room to the living room to the kitchen and then the dining room, over and over and over... and there’s that one low doorway. They bludgeon themselves on it every go round, but they don’t stop.

  Each lap results in deeper wounds and more blood on the lintel.
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  AUSTRALIA: Religion start selling real estate assets to pay compensation to child abuse victims following Child Abuse Royal Commission

  by jwleaks in

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  paying for the sins of their church.

  australians are becoming less religious so congregations are getting smaller.

  that means there are fewer parishioners to contribute money.. ..."they're simply looking at the dollars they can reap from the sale of this wonderful old building and i simply don't feel that i should be spending my weekends keeping the view clear," mr thomas said.. ...the royal commission into child sexual abuse exposed widespread paedophilia within religion and concluded that its leaders were at times weak, ineffectual, and even complicit.. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-30/paying-for-the-sins-of-their-church/9586602.

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  lastmanstanding

  Let’s see.

  • Anglican Church burns to the ground, all items inside lost.
  • JW Kingdom Hall engulfed in flames...
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  Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  most jws don't see this as a problem.

  they reason that.

  just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.

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  lastmanstanding

  This has nothing whatsoever to do with privileged communication between a clergy member and a lay person. Nothing.

  If a JW child says “mommy, brother Bastard stuck his blah blah blah” then that Mommy needs to call the police, period.

  I don’t care what brother Bastard said or didn’t say to brother elder idiot at the kingdumb Hall or any other place. It’s irrelevant.

  What does matter is JW elders preaching and enforcing the Watchtower’s dogma and dictates, using undue influence in convincing JW rank & file that they should stay silent when they have knowledge of a crime.

  What does matter is Watchtower threatening to bust up your family if you do the right thing and inform authorities of crime.

  What does matter is the lame ass governments and the law unenforcemnt cowards who allow religions to get away with cowing their members into silence when crimes have been committed.