Posts by evilApostate

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Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?

by evilApostate in

and god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.

god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.

god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.

evilApostate

@schnell:

Thanks for the diagram.

My point is if the creation story is clearly false, why do people still take it so seriously?

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Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?

by evilApostate in

and god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.

god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.

god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.

evilApostate

And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

Above we see that there were waters below and waters above. Underneath the waters above was the sky. According to many Christians the flood came because God allowed the waters above to come down.

And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

Above, we see that the bible is saying that God placed the sun and the moon in the vault of the sky; i.e. the earth's atmosphere. So much for the bible being "scientifically accurate."

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Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Society Houses Hidden Sexual Abuse Records, Says Journalist

by no password in

jehovah's witnesses watchtower society houses hidden sexual abuse records, says journalist.

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evilApostate

I tell you this much. The day that the pedophile database is actually released, I will party like it's 1999.

Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually delete all data before they are forced to release it.

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Why would Jehovah give Satan rulership of the World.?

by smiddy in

romans 13 : 1-7 "let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities" etc,"the existing authourities stand placed in their relative positions by god" 2".therefore he who opposers the authourity has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ,those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves "etc,etc,.."..to him who calls for honour such honour.".

isnt this plainly stating that christians should be supporting and playing along with the governments of this sytem of things ?

that it is in fact an arrangement of god ?

evilApostate

Annon: yeah if he wanted to win the contest of winning votes, would he not have showered mankind with goodness instead, in his final sprint? may be it was the other contestant that caused all the havoc, like he did in Babel, and in the same region again today? bad scriptwriting in that made up drama.

Precisely. JWs teach that Jokehova is giving Satan a chance to prove that his rulership is better. Yet they also teach that he came down to earth in 1914 and began wreaking havoc in the world. This is so contradictory. Wouldn't he use his power/wisdom to help us rather than harm us?

Another, hole in the logic is that there are many accounts in the bible where Jokehova intervenes (the flood etc). That is hardly giving Satan a chance.

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AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK

by steve2 in

here we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.

jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.

in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.

evilApostate

Again, as with the more recent years of consecutive increases, not one direct word in Jw publications will comment on the dramatic increase in the total number of memorial partakers. I understand from an earlier thread, that the 2016 increase in partakers is the largest increase in sharp contrast to decades of "predicted" decreases.
The amazing thing is their continued reporting of the partakers-increases, along with the lack of direct commentary on it.

Didn't they say that not all of these people were really anointed and that many of these people have a mental disturbance or emotional imbalance which caused them to think that they are anointed.

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Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

i am new on this forum.

i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

evilApostate

Jehovah's Witnesses teach that your relationship with God depends on the words 7 men refered to as "the Faithful and Discrete slave" or Governing Body. It would seem that the Governing body is the mediator for the great crowd according to their teachings.

"Our friendship with God depends on receiving spiritual food through this faithful slave." (Watchtower 2013 July simplified)

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Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

i am new on this forum.

i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

evilApostate

Sounds like you dodged a bullet. I'm don't remember too much about JW doctine but I can tell you that JWs are as anti-Jesus as any form of Christianity can get. They do not believe that Jesus should be worshipped or that he is God etc. They simply refer to him as the channel to God (which is strange since they also state in watchtower articles that the Governing Body is the channel to God).

Therefore, you won't find them praying to Jesus or any such thing. For further research on JWs see jwfacts.com and share the information with your family and friends before they become entrapped in a cult.

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Noah a Preacher of Righteousness?

by Spoletta in

during the watchtower study today, i browsed genesis and looked for evidence of noah ever preaching to anyone.

from what i could glean from the scriptures, it was a foregone conclusion that noah's family would be it on the ark.

(unless they towed some rafts behind) my wife says that building the ark could be considered a witness of his faith to the wicked world, but that seems kind of lame to me.. so, should i just assume that god decided not to give anyone else a chance for redemption?

evilApostate

The idea of a global flood is preposterous at best. Even if there was some type of flood, how would Noah know if it was worldwide?

If the place where I have lived all my life is flooded and there is no land in sight then for ancient people, it is logical to conclude that the "whole world" is covered by water. I mean if just part of Australia is flooded, there is no way to know if the entire of Australia is flooded or the rest of the world for that matter.

Can someone living in Sydney Australia see if South Africa is flooded?

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New KH being built near where I live

by A Believer in

there are two kingdom halls in two parts of the county i live in.

one is smaller and their are already about to begin work to replace with a new one.. just posting because i noticed posts saying their wasn't new khs being built.

and i learned this today from someone..