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  You know it's the Truth, because it attracts crazy people.

  by schnell in

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  i wish i was kidding, but i have heard this idea suggested lately as a defense of the wts.

  this is god's organization, even though it attracts crazy people, and because it attracts crazy people.

  "unlettered and ordinary," et cetera.. i don't get it.

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  evilApostate

  At this rate, in ten years (if they don't go bust by then) they will have about 50,000 anointed people. 😆
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  I am glad to have found the true religion

  by A Believer in

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  it really is great.

  i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

  i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

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  evilApostate

  You guys just couldn't resist the bait right?
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  WT sells branch in Hong Kong for 65M

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.savills.com.hk/_news/article/574/141879-0/12/2015/savills-appointed-sole-agent-for-the-tender-sale-of-12-and-14-kent-road--kowloon-tong.

  savills appointed sole agent for the tender sale of 12 & 14 kent road, kowloon tong.

  the two-storey property at 14 kent road has a site area and saleable area of 10,771 sq ft and 4,303 sq ft respectively.

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  evilApostate

  Check the Yearbook for 1992 p. 26 (you can find it here from the Avoid JW webpage:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw0qjUoEReBVQ3pVaVVMV1VPbVk/view)

  I see. However, wouldn't that mean that they are only partially closing? Don't they still own the other property at 4 Kent Road, Kowloon Tong?

  From the yearbook:

  On January 1, 1980, the branch office moved from a tiny
  facility to a more spacious and quieter one at 4 Kent Road in
  the suburb of Kowloon Tong. These premises were to serve
  the needs of the branch very well for eight years. Time then
  came for further expansion. Right on time a beautiful building
  suitable for a small branch office and Bethel Home became
  available at 12 Kent Road, and this was purchased. However,
  after only three years, it became obvious that another property
  would soon be needed. Again Jehovah provided.
  One afternoon, a Catholic priest living at 16 Kent Road
  told the Branch Committee coordinator, "Our friends have
  gone." He was referring to a Chinese family who owned
  14 Kent Road. This family had moved out that weekend, and
  their house was for sale. It was ideal. The property at 14 Kent
  Road is an excellent addition to our other properties at
  numbers 4 and 12. This is a two-story, white reinforced concrete building.

  The Bethel family now numbers 19, and
  there are accommodations for 30.
  
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  WT sells branch in Hong Kong for 65M

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.savills.com.hk/_news/article/574/141879-0/12/2015/savills-appointed-sole-agent-for-the-tender-sale-of-12-and-14-kent-road--kowloon-tong.

  savills appointed sole agent for the tender sale of 12 & 14 kent road, kowloon tong.

  the two-storey property at 14 kent road has a site area and saleable area of 10,771 sq ft and 4,303 sq ft respectively.

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  Is this really Watchtower's property? I didn't see anything in your link about Watchtower owning the property. Additionally, according to this:

  https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.280118342181278.1073741832.150992685093845&type=3

  Watchtower's branch is located at 4 Kent Road, Kowloon Tong. Can you clarify?
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  Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?

  by evilApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.

  god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.

  god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.

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  @schnell:

  Thanks for the diagram.

  My point is if the creation story is clearly false, why do people still take it so seriously?
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  Did God place the Sun and Moon in the earth's atmosphere?

  by evilApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  and god said, “let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” so god made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it.

  god called the vault “sky.” and there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.and god said, “let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” and it was so.

  god called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” and god saw that it was good.. above we see that there were waters below and waters above.

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  And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
  And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

  Above we see that there were waters below and waters above. Underneath the waters above was the sky. According to many Christians the flood came because God allowed the waters above to come down.

  And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

  Above, we see that the bible is saying that God placed the sun and the moon in the vault of the sky; i.e. the earth's atmosphere. So much for the bible being "scientifically accurate."
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Watchtower Society Houses Hidden Sexual Abuse Records, Says Journalist

  by no password in

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  jehovah's witnesses watchtower society houses hidden sexual abuse records, says journalist.

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  I tell you this much. The day that the pedophile database is actually released, I will party like it's 1999.

  Sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if they actually delete all data before they are forced to release it.
  
  
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  Why would Jehovah give Satan rulership of the World.?

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  romans 13 : 1-7 "let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities" etc,"the existing authourities stand placed in their relative positions by god" 2".therefore he who opposers the authourity has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ,those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves "etc,etc,.."..to him who calls for honour such honour.".

  isnt this plainly stating that christians should be supporting and playing along with the governments of this sytem of things ?

  that it is in fact an arrangement of god ?

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  Annon: yeah if he wanted to win the contest of winning votes, would he not have showered mankind with goodness instead, in his final sprint? may be it was the other contestant that caused all the havoc, like he did in Babel, and in the same region again today? bad scriptwriting in that made up drama.

  Precisely. JWs teach that Jokehova is giving Satan a chance to prove that his rulership is better. Yet they also teach that he came down to earth in 1914 and began wreaking havoc in the world. This is so contradictory. Wouldn't he use his power/wisdom to help us rather than harm us?

  Another, hole in the logic is that there are many accounts in the bible where Jokehova intervenes (the flood etc). That is hardly giving Satan a chance.
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  AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.

  jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.

  in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.

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  evilApostate

  Again, as with the more recent years of consecutive increases, not one direct word in Jw publications will comment on the dramatic increase in the total number of memorial partakers. I understand from an earlier thread, that the 2016 increase in partakers is the largest increase in sharp contrast to decades of "predicted" decreases.
  The amazing thing is their continued reporting of the partakers-increases, along with the lack of direct commentary on it.

  Didn't they say that not all of these people were really anointed and that many of these people have a mental disturbance or emotional imbalance which caused them to think that they are anointed.
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  Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am new on this forum.

  i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

  however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

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  evilApostate

  Jehovah's Witnesses teach that your relationship with God depends on the words 7 men refered to as "the Faithful and Discrete slave" or Governing Body. It would seem that the Governing body is the mediator for the great crowd according to their teachings.

  "Our friendship with God depends on receiving spiritual food through this faithful slave." (Watchtower 2013 July simplified)