Heartsafire

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  Today's watchtower: obey us, no matter what

  by Tornintwo in

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  today's watchtower:.

  obey us, obey us even when it seems strange, obeying our man made hierarchy equates to obeying god, sacrifice your own interests, work for us, don't be independent, put your own interests aside, obey some more, preach for us, build for us, enjoy it, obey some more, forgive when we are jerks to you and mistreat you, accept your changed assignment even if it seems cruel and doesn't make sense, don't complain if we move you (eg.

  ) because you might have to move in the new world, remember you are being trained to obey, remember to put your own interests aside, that's the way we are designed to live - it will only make you happy!

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  Ugh. Just more of this.
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  What if.

  by LAWHFol in

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  what if we only find god, once we have found our self?

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  Heartsafire

  LAWHfol your original question sounds philosophical and I really don't know what to say except that it reminded me of something my philosophy professor taught about worshipping science, math etc. There was once a cult that formed to worship math. They believed math was the only perfect thing in all the universe, and therefore to be perfect they had to forego fleshly desires and devote their entire lives to studying math. Further, they believed that when they died they got to study math eternally in an afterlife. Pythagoras started this cult if I remember correctly. You know, the triangles guy. Anywho...I feel this post is random and pointless...but what the hey I'm going to post it anyway. Enjoy.
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  2015-2016-More BOEs just arrived!

  by Atlantis in

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  these boes just arrived!.

  .. re: global assistance arrangement for the 2016 service year .

  http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/xnlm2ba.

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  Heartsafire

  Thanks Atlantis!
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  My experience with a Judicial Committee, when in my early 20's

  by Dunedain in

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  2. experiences

  i joined this wonderful site, only a few weeks ago, although i have been away from the borg, for almost 20 years.

  i didnt introduce myself, on a personal level, but i jumped right in, commenting, making threads, and just immersing myself in this community.

  what a time, indeed, to be here, its almost as if i was "called" here, because the week i lurked, and joined, was when all this recent stuff came out.

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  Now that is one helluva experience! I'm sorry to hear that happened to you, but it sounds like you are better off and much the wiser for it.

  Ah yes, the elders...I have seen quite a variety in my life from the totally clueless to the borderline psychotic and everything in between. Many play favorites, but it sounds as though your JC was pretty much standard procedure--anything hidden gets the dfing despite obvious repentance and improvement (I know, I know, total palm to forehead bs).

  The part where they screamed at you and wouldn't listen reminded me of this:

  2 Corin 2:7,8 (NWT) 7 now you should instead kindly forgive and comfort him, so that he may not be overwhelmed by excessive sadness. 8 I therefore exhort you to confirm your love for him.
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  Hey! Wanted to say Hi!

  by Miss Worldly in

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  hey!

  i've been hanging around her for a while.

  this is the third attempt at my 'hello'.

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  Heartsafire

  Hey there Miss Worldly! Love your username. Can't wait to hear more about you and what brings you to this site 😊.
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  Did an EX-JW wake you up to TTATT or did you put the effort to wake up yourself?

  by John Aquila in

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  2. experiences

  how many of us were woken up by some apostate yelling false prophets at a convention?.

  how many of us were woken up by someone holding a sign and yelling, what happened to 1975.

  how many of us were coerced to investigate the wt because some ex-jw pulled up a bunch of old watchtowers magazines and told us to read the false predictions?.

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  I woke up myself. No apostates necessary. As far back as I can recall, I have always been somewhat aware that it wasn't the truth. I wasn't fully awake until this year, but there were always things I heard or saw within the org that didn't sit right with me. About a month ago I stumbled acrossed an old diary I kept around the time I got baptized. In one entry I had written that I thought JW's twist scripture to make it fit their doctrine. Sheesh. Hindsight is 20/20.
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  Similarities between the Governing Body and an abusive spouse

  by Zoos in

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  i was looking at a list of methods used by abusive spouses to manipulate and control their "domain" and was struck by how similar the mentality is to the governing body's approach to the flock.

  obviously not everything on the list applies as there is no sexual component in the congregation and there is no physical contact, but the similarities were shocking.. http://www.helpguide.org/articles/abuse/domestic-violence-and-abuse.htm.

  abusers use a variety of tactics to manipulate you and exert their power:.

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  Wow Zoos! This is a great point! The gas lighting, the deceit, the manipulation, etc. Not to mention the literal abuse of thousands of children covered up and hidden away. No wonder their followers are so co-dependent (or sadistically jump on the abuse bandwagon themselves).
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  Hello. New here.

  by ULFBERHT in

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  new around here.

  wanted to say "hello".. +ulfberh+t.

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  Heartsafire

  Cool story behind your username! I'm rather new here myself, but it's not so bad:-). Hello there and welcome!
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  Belief in God Can Be Turned Off Like a Light Switch

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  researchers in york used magnetic stimulation to target an area of the brain called the medial frontal cortex in a group of volunteers.

  a control group received a sham treatment.. both groups were asked to think about death.

  the group who experienced the magnetic energy reported 32.8% less belief in angels, god and heaven.. when faced with difficult challenges people often take refuge in ideology.

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  Heartsafire

  Obviously this study was conducted only on people who believe in angels, God, and heaven. I wonder what would happen if it were conducted on atheists? Nothing? Or, what about conducting this experiment on people who are polytheists? Agnostics? It would be interesting to see how conviction of belief might be altered acrossed various belief systems. And...oh no I've gone cross-eyed. 😲
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  My mom passed away yesterday....

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  thank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.

  finally, she is at peace.

  i was with her , holding her hand when she died.

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  Heartsafire

  Minimus,

  My heart goes out to you. It is obvious that you and your mother shared a special relationship. A beautiful example of love conquering all. I am so sorry for your loss.💐

  HAF