Barely there,
Please keep us posted as to what you decide to do and how it works out for you. No matter what happens don't forget we are here for you, and feel free to vent. Hopefully everything works out in your favor.
hey everyone.
i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.
there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.
Barely there,
Please keep us posted as to what you decide to do and how it works out for you. No matter what happens don't forget we are here for you, and feel free to vent. Hopefully everything works out in your favor.
i've always found it amazing that people can say with such conviction that jehovah is their friend.. we are talking about a "friend" who perhaps daily "tests" us to see if we are his friends.
all of us have dealt with some form of hardship such as the death of a loved one, chronic illness or whatever.
it is in these cases that the brothers will tell a person that perhaps it is a test, or that "jehovah knows you're not ready" or some other lame excuse.. do our real friends "test" us to see if we will be loyal to them?
The whole friend thing is to emphasize to the r&f that they can't be children of God and heirs with Christ but they can be god's friend like Abraham...or some such nonsense.
Most people outgrow having an imaginary friend, but not the JWs who relegate God to a mere buddy or pal. Let's be honest, they really worship the org. That's their God.
were is the sense...to this?.
i wouldn't go to war...i was a conscientious objector in viet nam.
i couldn't even get into a fight at school without getting into trouble.. yet my god...jehovah was is a jealous god an angry god....a god who when he got pissed off could destroy a whole planet...remember the flood....(the bible said he felt bad afterwards)...that was nice.. now he is getting ready to do it again....7 billion people worth....and why?.
it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".
"is he 'in the truth'?".
most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
hey everyone.
i'm sorry that this isn't a very thought provoking post but i could really use some advice on how to handle this.
there isn't anyone else in my life i can ask right now because, being dfed, all of my friends are "worldly" and don't know how witnesses function.
If you are working towards reinstatement than it couldn't hurt to meet with your elders and express concerns over the attitude of the congregation should you become reinstated. You do not have to "out" yourself that you were browsing through private messages. You can simply state that you have picked up on tidbits of gossip from here or there and are worried you will not be accepted into the congregation once reinstated. Come from a place of asking for their help, and try to see if you can get a couple of the elders to support you. Also, stay proactive about it, and once reinstated, be sure to ask for a sheparding call to follow up on how you are getting along. If there is a problem, they may have to bring it out in local needs or counsel the people still shunning you.
Every congregation is different and it is hard to say what yours is like. It is typical for JWs to take sides on an issue that is none of their business. Although, I can honestly say that I doubt the whole congregation will shun you once you are reinstated. There are several reinstated ones in my congregation that have committed adultery and some have done it more than once. Unless you know their story you would really never know. They aren't treated any differently. Again, all congregations are different, and in the end you may find switching to a new one is really best.
Im sorry you are going through this craziness. I personally don't know if I could or would go back to them if it were me, but, no judgement here. We all have our reasons.
there were other people who either killed themselves or tried to kill themselves while they were at "the house of god.
one person who did kill himself was richard wheelock, press room overseer ......he jumped out of a window at the watchtower farm one day.
it seemed, he was never quite the same after his wife "willy" died.
to my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
more "odds and ends".
i liked lyman swingle (governing body member)......he was from alabama, he knew how to curse at the right time.
i think, that’s why i went to him, when i was having so much trouble with my future wife’s parents.
to my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
most of us went back to bethel, thinking we wanted to make it our life long career, what better place to be right before 1975, when god was coming back to kick some ass?
that dream ended for the vast majority after just few months there, when they found out that something was very wrong.
otherwise why would anyone want to leave a spiritual paradise?