Thanks for that Lisa Rose. I need to brush up on my Steve Hassan lately. Truth be told it is quite exhausting mentally and emotionally for me to remember all this stuff and contemplate indirect tactics to slowly reveal ttatt to my husband. It's one day at a time for me. Thanks for bringing these little reminders to our attention:)
Heartsafire
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Need Suggestions/examples: Guide to helping family & friends break free
by LisaRose ini was going through my copy of steve hassan's combating cult mind control and it occurred to me that it would be great to have something like this specifically for us ex jehovah's witnesses.
while this is a great book, the examples he uses are mostly from people that were moonies, as steve is a former moonie and many people that have contacted him for help were relatives of moonies.
while cults all work basically the same, it would be nice to be have some ideas on things that are specific to jehovah's witnesses.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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Heartsafire
I'm with never a jw on this one. You have every right to be there for the entirety of the reunion. You have done nothing wrong. The people with the problem are the JW relatives, and unless they are the ones actually hosting the reunion, they hold no more precedence than anyone else. Hold your head high, and show your family that you have been happy and successful despite what they may have been taught about "worldly" people. If they have a problem, they can be the ones to leave early.
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Just a really messed up situation
by My Name is of No Consequence ina quick summary of my situation: i have known ttatt since at least 2010. my wife and teenage son are still in.
i only mention that because it is relevant in this situation.
you can see some of my previous posts for additional details.
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Heartsafire
So glad to hear you had a good talk. Sounds like he has a great head on his shoulders, and thank goodness he has someone like you to support him along the way. Keep doing what you are doing, and encourage the education too. Made my day to read this.
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In a really good place right now.....
by Freeandclear ini'm in a great place mentally and spiritually in my life right now.
i just wanted to share.
because i know many of you are new and have just left the borg and well there are some tough times ahead but i want to assure you you can get through this and come out the other side much happier and more at peace.. i'm 44. got baptized at 18. was a convert not a born in.
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Heartsafire
I totally understand. I still believe in God. Same thing, I had to come to terms with the fact that everyone dies. This led to a lot of grieving that I had unknowingly stifled for years over loved ones of mine who have died. I'm happy for you. It's hard to acknowledge that we don't have all the answers too. Here's to being honest with yourself and brave enough to face the future. Cheers🍻
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In a really good place right now.....
by Freeandclear ini'm in a great place mentally and spiritually in my life right now.
i just wanted to share.
because i know many of you are new and have just left the borg and well there are some tough times ahead but i want to assure you you can get through this and come out the other side much happier and more at peace.. i'm 44. got baptized at 18. was a convert not a born in.
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Heartsafire
Glad to hear you have found resolution and peace within yourself. How did you come to the realization about death? Amazing that you were able to let go of having all the answers. A lot of people are trapped in religions because of fears like this.
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Just a really messed up situation
by My Name is of No Consequence ina quick summary of my situation: i have known ttatt since at least 2010. my wife and teenage son are still in.
i only mention that because it is relevant in this situation.
you can see some of my previous posts for additional details.
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Heartsafire
Wow. You are one strong person to put up with this for so long. You must really love that little guy, and your wife too. Sadly, you can't change anyone. You can only let them know how you feel and work on yourself. Form a relationship doing something with your stepson that you both can connect on and enjoy together. It sounds like he trusts you. Your wife--sheesh--I don't know what to say. I'm suffering the same situation with my husband rn.
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100-million man hours
by Coded Logic inthe james webb telescope is set to launch in october of 2018 and will allow us to study the formation of first generation stars, the molecular clouds that became the first galaxies, and directly image exoplanets.
roughly one hundred times more powerful than the hubble space telescope the jwst is going to push back the current boundaries of science.. this is what 100-million man hours can accomplish.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8p0samsz7m.
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Heartsafire
Awesome! I am so excited for the launch!
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List of "pagan" things JW's allow
by problemaddict 2 inwhat i'm looking for specifically is things that are "pagan" in the sense they predate christianity (or i guess judiasm to cover the ole mosaic code), that jw's allow or do.
the ones that come to mind are below.. rings - rings seem to originate in egypt.
for wedding ceremonies it became a symbol of "ownership" in rome.. pinatas - looks like possibly it originated in china as a part of the new year and a request for luck, and catholics later turned it into a beating of temptation type thing.. anything else?.
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Heartsafire
Wind chimes, rock crystals, makeup, and dancing, the days of the week, the Roman calander. Pretty much anything can be linked to paganism.
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Cult memories extinguish good memories
by rebel8 ini have this thing.
i don't know why it is or how to stop it.
every time i happen to daydream about something positive from my childhood, some related cult aspect comes to mind and extinguishes it like a candle is being blown out.. for a while, i thought this was anger and resentment causing me to want to find an excuse to be angry (not that i need one).
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Heartsafire
You're not alone in this, rebel8. Happens to me all the time. A lot of my negative memories surface particularly when I'm hormonal or taking certain antibiotics. To the memories that end with me cringing, I like to imagine something really wonderful happening instead, or a bad person doing something I really like.
It's fun to imagine an alternate ending and can help you not dwell on how bad you felt. For example, I might remember my heinous uncle publicly chastisng me at me at a meeting for being late (actual memory) when suddenly he is struck with a horrible bowel problem and diarrhea explodes from his backside, blowing through the fabric of his suit pants and soaking the CO's wife who happens to be standing, horrified, next to him (my alternate ending to the memory).
I believe it is Steve Hassan who uses this method to help people deal with bad cult memories, but I could be wrong about that.
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G Losch Talk - Do Not Hold a Grudge
by Listener ina new video on jw org tv titled do not hold a grudge is presented by gb's oldest member gerrit losch.this is just another representation of the standard of talks prepared and given by the highest level of authority and position within the jw organization.
they desperately need help, not even their complete rebranding can save them from themselves.some of this gb member's gems about holding a grudge include -.
- what can lead to a grudge?
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Heartsafire
Ugh to this talk. It is so silly. Of course they have to make up rhymes to woo the audience. We're talking about people who watch jdubya.borg for entertainment and follow the lead of cartoons in their worship *ahem* Caleb and Sophia.