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  Bret Weinstein: Evergreen State College Racism Controversy

  by Simon in

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  great discussion, well worth watching.

  covers racism, the bubble that some people live in vs the reality that resulted in trumps election and more (and jws get a mention too).. the rubin report (and many of the guests he has on) repeatedly knock it out of the park with sensible, calm and important analysis and commentary on important issues to our society.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-feapcgxnyy.

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  Gotta love the Rubin Report. Dave Rubin's interviews have totally made a difference for me on so many levels. This madness going on at Evergreen is, from what can see, just the tip of the iceberg in a fascist, terroristic movement know as the far left. This country needs to clean out the viral, systemic ideologies ripping itself apart internally. It starts with the youth.
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  Day 1: The Night of Anger, Tears, and Pain

  by Saethydd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my freedom came with a heavy cost.

  i couldn't stand the dishonesty so when my sister went out of town on a trip i told my parents that i no longer wanted to be a jw.

  when my sister got back and i told her she was so angry, said she really wanted to slap me, then she ran off sobbing, a few minutes later she deposited every gift i ever gave her in front of my door.. my entire family has turned against me.

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  Heartsafire

  Saethydd,

  So happy to hear you are in a place of freedom and acceptance.

  You've carefully thought out your exit and planned accordingly knowing that your family would react the way they did. You also respected your family in choosing to reveal to them the truth of your beliefs rather than lie to them any further.

  What you did took guts, and my hat is off to you. It takes brave ones like you to take a stand and break the cycle of this cult.

  It is unfortunate that your family could not accept your beliefs, and they toed the line in reacting to your honesty. Their beliefs are being challenged right now, and they are in great pain with conflicting feelings...not caused by you but caused by the indoctrination you so deservedly denounce. But, who knows what the future holds? This could be the start of something good for them all.

  Welcome to true freedom! Your future is yours to make and the possibilities are limitless.
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  Talk to my Dad about beards.

  by LovingLifeNow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i spoke to my elder dad the other day, and he asked if i still am sporting a beard.

  i said yes, then i said, "i thought the society said its ok to have a neat trimmed beard now?

  " he said "no, no, no..if you read the article , it says in countries where it is accepted" so my response was "ummm, its pretty accepted here in america"..which he says "it reflects your spirituality" "if another wittness saw you, they would know you are weak"...i was like, "ok, i don't get it, and i follow christ/god, not men..." then he said in his hall" if a brother came in with a beard , he would not have privelages" then i just gave up, and tried to change the subject..ugggggggggg if these people would just listen to themselves , they would see the sillyness of there teachings...

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  @the rebel

  Don't know if you were being serious. Couldn't help laughing. Btw...I pick C because a man confident in himself despite his flaws is attractive.

  I happen to think a clean, trimmed beard is sexy, but not as a compensation for baldness. A man who embraces his baldness is attractive and frankly rather sexy IMO.

  As for a man with a wig, I just feel sorry for the guy. But, no offense, please, to any gent who wears one.
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  How ballroom dancing helped our exit

  by Finally Left in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just wanted to say hello and thank you for all of your comments.

  when i finally figured out this was not the truth it was nice to know i wasn't the only one - it was a surprise to learn how many there are.

  february was my last month of service after 43 active years.

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  Wow! Marvelous story! Love that you bonded over dancing and it led to your freedom. If I wasn't such an Elaine from Seinfeld at dancing I might sign my hunny and I up for lessons. Congrats to you both.
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  If a person is transgender and gets saved what will they go to heaven as?

  by Nikorasu95 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this is a stupid question because the answer is obvious, but if a person was born a male and gets transgender surgery to turn into female will that person go to heaven as a male or female if they died saved?

  i think they will go to heaven with the gender they were born with.

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  As a unicorn of course.
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  Bored Teenagers?

  by compound complex in

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  2. entertainment

  we loved connie when we were kids, back in the '50s.

  still do, for that matter!.

  watch the kids in the audience.

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  That was a real treat to see and hear. I've never heard of her before seeing this, but this was before my time. I love the expressions of the kids in the audience, and I so love the styles and hair from the 50's and early 60's. Things seemed so much simpler and fun.
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  What Kind Of Psychological Conseling Do You Think Jehovah's Witnesses Need When They Find Out It's Not The Truth?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i personally would like to see they get the very best but haven't a clue how to do it what are your benevolent words of wisdom, should a person do a deep research on his own a kind of self medication or should they brush up on some psychology,, who should they trust because after you leave you got big trust issues.. i don't know about you but to me it was a real shocker, i was totally into getting their worthless bull shit out of my head.

  i choose the self medicate path and did as must research as time would allow,, science was a biggie for me, it was enjoyable learning to get so much bull shit out of my head..

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  For a time I saw a therapist who had worked with victims of domestic abuse and also people of mob/gang families. I was told my case most closely resembled one in dealing with a mob family. Good therapists are out there, and sometimes it just helps to be heard by a professional.

  Although, nothing beats a good vent here on the forum where almost everyone knows exactly what you're dealing with. I don't even have to explain the cult-speak, and it's a helluva lot cheaper!
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  JW Grandparent Drama

  by What Now? in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom and sisters have not had any contact with my family for the past year and a half.. we even recently announced a new pregnancy and none of them acknowledged it or called to say congratulations or anything.. this past week my non-witness grandfather passed away and i had thought that for the sake of his death and funeral, it being "necessary family business" that they would at least be civil in front of our other family.

  all of them still ignored me, my sisters didn't even speak to my children at all - to be honest i don't think my kids even knew who they were.

  for the sake of my grandmother i made a small attempt at the end of the day to say goodbye to my mother and she kind of just brushed past me and said goodbye without really looking at me.. anyways my grandmother told me later that my mom spoke to her and said "i love my daughter and i love my grandchildren and i'm so upset that she won't allow me to see them".

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  On writing your mother a letter: I think that it would be a good idea to let her know very clearly in writing that you respect her and want her to be part of your children's lives, but she must reciprocate that respect. This is a civil, reasonable, and fair expectation of anyone.

  Perhaps she does not have to agree with your decision to leave the JWs, but if she wants to be in your children's lives she must not "shun" you particularly in front of your own children due to her disagreement. Rather, she needs to contribute to the welfare of your children and unity of your family by respecting you as their parent and mother.

  I know you aren't particularly concerned about her teaching the children JW things when they are with her, and maybe this is because you are willing to overlook more than you normally would for the sake of their relationship. But, at some point your children will be old enough to understand JW teachings such as birthdays are evil and Armageddon, etc. These teachings could affect your children. I don't know about you, but I certainly wouldn't want to impose that propaganda on anyone much less young, impressionable minds. It may be worth asking your mother to bond with your children in ways other than religious--or at least refrain from certain teachings that you believe could be damaging.

  Hopefully she would read a letter if you wrote one, but I wouldnt rely on her doing so. She may read it and refuse to comply. In this case, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Do all in your power to surround your children with good people who share your values and respect you. In my case, I joined a local church group for a time and made a lot of friends. I don't attend the church, and most of them don't either, but at least I have a great support group! Much better than anything I had at the KH.

  You and your children deserve much better than what your family has shown.

  I apologize this is such a long post.

  Edit: as for a biblical appeal, I would not divulge any scriptural basis on your demand for respect. First of all, no one needs a scripture to agree that shunning a parent in their children's presence is disrespectful. To ask someone to treat you humanely is not an unreasonable request and does not require scriptural backing. Secondly, JWs are conditioned to only look to the FDS for interpretation of scripture so anyone-particularly a DF'd person-who quotes the Bible will be seen as misinterpreting scripture. I could go on, but I'm stopping here.
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  Visiting Japan and saw one of those Carts. What is the purpose of those book carts for the borg?

  by adjusted knowledge in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm in japan for three weeks visiting my sister-in-law and brother.

  the people are so polite and i came across two female jw using the cart.

  it is the same experience i noticed back in the states.

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  Those carts are so awkward and silly! I'm sure they're just as an easy way to get "time" as no real interaction or Bible knowledge is required--just babysit the cart and direct any questions to the website.

  Embarrassing these people think they're Christian or even doing anything remotely close to a community service!
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  So much time wasted!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i have left almost 4 years ago.

  i have become a green belt in karate classes.

  have got permits to own guns and go hunting.

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  Good for you! And for your wife too! I wish my husband would totally get out with me. Life could be so lovely, and it still is, so long as we're not plagued by any of the hang ups at the KH.

  So...you have a boat? Sounds like a lot of fun! Nothing better than a day on the water.