Damn it new boy! This one really can't be your last, can it? Have you been to Brooklyn lately? I'd be interested to know what Brooklyn was like in the 70's compared to today. Bet there were more mom and pop restaurants and shops. Anything you miss about the area in general?
Heartsafire
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My Bthel Experince Part 19 The Last Chapter..(really) Bethel Overseers
by new boy inthere were other people who either killed themselves or tried to kill themselves while they were at "the house of god.
one person who did kill himself was richard wheelock, press room overseer ......he jumped out of a window at the watchtower farm one day.
it seemed, he was never quite the same after his wife "willy" died.
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Even the Overlapping Generations isn't an original concept
by paradisebeauty into my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
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Heartsafire
Cofty, by the time the jdubs learn it, the formula will be changed again as new "light". Hee hee. -
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MY Bethel Experience Part 17
by new boy inmore "odds and ends".
i liked lyman swingle (governing body member)......he was from alabama, he knew how to curse at the right time.
i think, that’s why i went to him, when i was having so much trouble with my future wife’s parents.
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I heard that one of the apostates that protested regularly was hit and killed by a jw delivery truck outside one of the buildings. Was in the 90's. Of course it was an "accident"... -
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Even the Overlapping Generations isn't an original concept
by paradisebeauty into my surprise, i found this: .
the overlapping generations model is an economic model .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/overlapping_generations_model.
if those people from wt are inspired, why can't they at least come up with something original .....
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Yea I read that too on Wikipedia months ago. It's so obvious they pulled that overlapping gen thing as a last ditch effort to keep 1914 relevant with the r&f. It didn't work for me! Lol. -
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My Bethel Experience Part 13 "Love and Sex" at Bethel
by new boy inmost of us went back to bethel, thinking we wanted to make it our life long career, what better place to be right before 1975, when god was coming back to kick some ass?
that dream ended for the vast majority after just few months there, when they found out that something was very wrong.
otherwise why would anyone want to leave a spiritual paradise?
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Heartsafire
Wow, I love that you are telling it like it is. Keep 'em coming! -
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Stories of "Miracles"
by cappytan inso, all of us have probably heard a lot of urban miracle legends over the years in the org.here's one from outside the org.years ago, i worked with this lady.
she was my supervisor.
we liked having discussions on god and the bible.
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Heartsafire
When I was growing up I had a neighbor my age who was Catholic. She claimed to have seen Jesus looking at her through a mirror, and she regularly saw Mary and saints walking around in her home. She claimed God spoke to her and told her it meant he was with her. This was when we were about 6 or 7 yrs old. Made the hairs on back of my neck stand up. She did go to one meeting with me and told me my church was "weird." LOL. -
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My Bethel Experienxce Part 10
by new boy inthere were guys at bethel, who had great jobs........like don brouex.....he was the receptionist at the 124 desk.
his job was checking in and "checking out" all the bethel tours and "hot" sisters on their way through the bethel home.
that my friend, is not a real bethel job.
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Heartsafire
That is SO true about the cars in NY! Looks like u made your money back on your Fairlane shuttling people around:-) -
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Did Jesus actually start a church to himself?
by TTWSYF inwith some 30,000 different christian denominations, how would one know which one was for real?
some folks think jesus did start a church, others think no.
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Heartsafire
Im not certain if his intention was for a completely new religion or to merely change Judaism.
From what I gather Jesus is, at least, a historical figure that existed as a man. But, whatever you believe, if you choose to go by scripture, he appeared to be a Jewish "apostate" and introduced a new approach to worship that was based upon what we now call the Golden Rule rather than the legalism of the Jewish law.
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Hello, this is my first post
by noralee inhello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.
that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.
that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.
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Heartsafire
Wow, good for you to do the research and get out with your family! Welcome to the forum:-).
HAF
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Slim nd Cofty are both right.....
by The Rebel ini haven't had anything to contribute for a while so i have been lurking, which is a pleasant pastime.. anyway i have really enjoyd slimboyfats way of thinking, and i don't think such thinking needs discharge from the mental asylum.
i guess i am out of ammunition to argue with coftys may i say more rational thinking.. so whilst i find it difficult to refute what cofty says, i also find slimboyfats thinking refreshing, and that's why i say they are both right.
maybe a better explanation would be i once worshipped an organisation which was referred to as " mother" and it wrapped me up in baby diapers.. as far as i am concerned both slim and cofty are independent thinkers, no longer controlled by the insane thinking and rhetoric of other people.
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Heartsafire
The POV's on here do challenge my thinking and beliefs. That's why I love this forum. Without exposure to different angles of thinking one cannot grow mentally. Perhaps this is why I find the Borg so repressive and unbearable with their one-note-tune teachings.
I find that when someone's fair statements make me angry or react than there is a reason for it, and I try to examine why I resist their ideas. Sometimes the ideas we find shocking at first are actually our minds introduced to a new concept. Shakes up our world!
HAF
edited to say: I really like cofty's factual approach and SBF's abstract thought.