Posts by Heartsafire

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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

by elderess in

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only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

Heartsafire

Elderess,

Forgive me if it's already been asked and answered, but what info did the email from the sister contain that helped you to wake up? I am trying to help my husband wake up, and maybe the things you saw would help him.

HAF

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Only a few days ago I was entirely lost and without hope the rug was pulled out from under me

by elderess in

jw
friends

only a few days ago i was walking around the house in a mindless wander thinking if i needed to seek professional help.

then i got the courage to seek the comfort of complete strangers on the internet and found a world of support here on this website.

thank you simon and whoever else has made this website possible.

Heartsafire

Elderess,

Welcome to the forum! What a moving intro! I am so happy that you have found the real truth and that you and your husband are both together in your journey. My husband did not respond so lovingly to my doubts when I approached him about it. To this day he is hateful and resentful towards me for losing faith in this man made organization (even though I have never officially left, I am merely a fader).

What it comes down to is that those of us who value honesty and truth--real truth--not lies or propaganda--are the ones who are waking up and making our way out. Congratulations again. You are never alone. PM me if you want a friend to talk to at any time.

HAF

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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

by pale.emperor in

this is my first post.

i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.

no friends, me at work.

Heartsafire

Welcome to the forum. Your wife and baby are lucky to have you. Hope things get better for you both. Meanwhile, feel free to vent here:)

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Memorial 2016

by Flg8ter in

the memorial is on march 23 this year.

but all the official jewish calendars has nissan 14 as april 22!

april 22 is the start of passover!

Heartsafire

Well last year the local dubs got a surprise. While everyone was passing crackers and wine, someone put anti-JW flyers all over the parking lot on the JW's cars etc. Wasn't me but wished I had thought of it.

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This thread is for proof that God exists

by juandefiero in

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however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

Heartsafire

Juandefiero,

Im assuming you mean a god like the one the JW's claim to worship, as in a creator? And, if you really wanted to know if a creator exists from a scientific aspect, couldn't you research this yourself? No disrespect or anything, but it seems less likely that you are looking for reasons to believe and more likely that you are looking for reasons to further support your atheist viewpoints. Also, I agree with cofty on this matter.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Heartsafire

Scared,

I should tell you that I have been homeless before. Living on the streets is not easy. Avoid getting sucked into groups of people who may use you or drag you down such as drug addicts, etc. Find successful people, and ask them for help. There are other groups out there besides religious organizations, but those are the ones I found most helpful (besides the welfare programs) in helping me get out of poverty.

Also, JW's love to pull all support from df'd ones. They think the hardships they cause in people's lives will be God's doing. They rejoice when people who leave suffer. It is a cultish ploy to get you to return to the fold. Don't give them the satisfaction. The best revenge is to live a good life. Plus, screw revenge, just live a good life period!

You can do this. Many people have. You are more than a suit and pamphlet passing robot. You are smart enough to realize ttatt, and brave enough to express your doubts to elders, so I think you will do well on your own.

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I am leaving the JW's . I am alone and scared. Advice and help needed please

by scared and lonely in

i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.

i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.

i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.

Heartsafire

Welcome to the site and your doubts are right about the Borg. I understand your plight of knowing nobody on the outside. My family goes back since my grandparent's grandparent's in the troof. Or wait...maybe earlier than that...anyway, If you must leave do it 100%. Think of all that energy you spent trying to make new JW's and counselling already JW's. Leaving will be much the same way, except you will be making friends and building a network.

If you are to be kicked out, you will need to find food and shelter. Immediately, you need to put together a resume, and find employment. Next, if you are in the USA, find the number to your local food bank and government assistance programs for welfare recipients. If you are in any place in the world including the USA, you can go to a local Catholic Charity and receive food and perhaps shelter and info for other charities. This is just a start.

You must form a network. Try to find other ex-JW's in your area. You can do this with the app "Meetup". You can also do this on this website. Most places in the USA have a community church. Where I live the community church is huge (think lots of $$) and the place to go if you need help. There are many small groups that meet for various reasons at these churches, and you will find tons of people receptive to your story and sympathetic with your plight. I have done this before--just went to some women's groups a few times and met some amazing individuals that are now my good friends. They don't care that I don't attend their group anymore, but we always find time to hang out and help each other.

If you know you have no chance to fade, then these are my suggestions. I am currently fading nicely. Hope this helps!

Edited to say: Each state in the USA has its own sort of welfare. And trust me, some states are better than others. If you are planning on moving, I would look into finding a state that has plenty of jobs (a bustling economy) as well as excellent welfare programs.

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The Pope is more like Christ than the GB

by StarTrekAngel in

just a quick line to share something i heard in the news yesterday.

while we may disagree with many of the doctrines of the catholic church, there was something interesting.. the subject was regarding the view by the church on abortion and contraceptives.

while the pope insisted in the absolute and immutable evil of terminating a pregnancy, he said that considering the risks presented by the zika virus, women in south america should consider contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies that could end up in a child born with defects.

Heartsafire

The pope is one of many people who are more loving than the GB. The Bible mentions that even wicked people love their own. The GB don't even do this.

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Hello everyone. New here looking for info and friends

by Harvard Illiterate 411 in

i sometimes was redirected to this page from reddit or another ex-jw site but never bothered to sign up.

i wanted to stay off the radar but since i'm getting dis-fellowshipped anyways and have no plans to come back what the hell.

been 22 years in the truth........... ahhhh i hate to use that expression...... bad habit but you know what i mean.

Heartsafire

Hey Harvard,

Good to know ya! I'm a fading JW and my husband is still under the WT spell. For years I felt like something was wrong and after finding info about the UN membership plus the child abuse scandals I couldn't take it anymore.

Finally read Steve Hassens book about combatting cult mind control and was like "holy shit, it's a cult"!

Really sucks how JW's are so judge-y especially of their own kind! If you are a halfway attractive woman you are seen as a threat to everyone. How dare you have shapely legs! Hide those ankles! Only us gals with cankles can wear short skirts!

Good for you on getting away. Can't wait to hear more about you. Congrats on the rest of your life!

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Travel recommendations?

by stephanie61092 in

hey guys.

i've decided that during this time of being dfed, maybe trying to get reinstated, i'm going to enjoy my time with myself.

that being said, i would like to do some traveling when the weather warms up across the us.

Heartsafire

Florida Keyes maybe?