What came first, the information or the storage system? Why?
We are waiting Cofty.
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What came first, the information or the storage system? Why?
We are waiting Cofty.
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Cofty,
You've got problems of your own. I wouldn't worry about others. Genetic algorithims prove that it would require more DNA than could fit in the entire universe to code 124 proteins just to provide ONE chance to get the coding right. And then, this does not even begin to address the supreme problem of the storage system of DNA itself whereby Harvard graduates have stuffed an amazing 700 Terabytes of information into one gram of DNA. What came first, the information or the storage system? Why?
Try to imagine a bridge developing under Darwin's Theory. Until you can walk across the bridge the wasted structure detracts rather than adds to its success, yet the bridge is far too complex to be built in a single generation. Now, if Genetic Algorithms can't even build a simple bridge how could they possibly build the human eye?
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Question:What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in evolution?
DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Now, um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.
Richard Dawkins knows as do most scientists that Materialism is dead from a probability standpoint. Notice his prolific use of "just so" language.
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Oh I wholeheartedly believe in science Lisa.
Can you expalin an evolution process that would account for where all the information in DNA could come from?
The possibilities of it occurring by chance are devastating.
"Based on probability factors . . any viable DNA strand having over 84 nucleotides cannot be the result of haphazard mutations. At that stage, the probabilities are 1 in 4.80 x 10 50 . Such a number, if written out, would read:
480,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,
000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
"Mathematicians agree that any requisite number beyond 10 50 has, statistically, a zero probability of occurrence (and even that gives it the benefit of the doubt!). Any species known to us, including the smallest single-cell bacteria, have enormously larger number of nucleotides than 100 or 1000. In fact, single cell bacteria display about 3,000,000 nucleotides, aligned in a very specific sequence. This means that there is no mathematical probability whatever for any known species to have been the product of a random occurrence—random mutations (to use the evolutionist's favorite expression)."—I.L. Cohen, Darwin was Wrong (1984), p. 205.
"This means 1 / 10 89190 DNA molecules, on the average, must form to provide the one chance of forming the specific DNA sequence necessary to code the 124 proteins. 10 89190 DNA's would weigh 10 89147 times more than the earth, and would certainly be sufficient to fill the universe many times over.
A lot of materialists have moved on to aliens Lisa. Scientific discoveries have eliminated the possibility of life occuring by chance here on earth. This of course just kicks the can down the road a bit.
if after you die you find yourself in front a god ready to judge you.
what will you say in your defense for not believing?
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he would HAVE to be gratified that his judgment of them was fulfilled by his punishment, otherwise what would be the point of his actions if not for gratification, in other words his satisfaction of his prophetic words coming to pass.
Galaxie,
I think you are confusing gratification with satisfaction. You use both words but I think they are different. Honorable judges do not get personal gratification (pleasure) from discharging their duties for which they were appointed to do. However, there is satisfation involved when law violations are judged. The Law is satisfied.
Maybe you don't see a difference, but I do especially when God specifically states "I take no pleasure"....
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In recent mags they even pointed out how silly young-earth creationism is.
When I left in '95 everyone I knew bought into the "millions" paradigm including myself. The 12 points I posted should be enough to demonstrate the materialistic and anti-christian indoctrination processes at work in Watchtower mind control.
for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.
genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.
i will make a helper suitable for him.. .
The original account says absolutely nothing about the importance of free will and allowing A&E to demonstrate their obedience
But certainly free will was offered because choice was offered.
he would have enforced the rule if he had been present
Of course he was present because he is omnipresent. Oxford reads:
ADJECTIVE
And, he did enforce the rule just as he said he woud. Had he prohibited the taking of the fruit, he would have prohibited free choice.
What the Garden of Eden tells us the most is about the consequences of belief. Belief is extremely important to God. Eve must have disbelieved God BEFORE she disobeyed. We act externally in a manner which is consistent with what we believe internally.
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Don't worry designs. All three of my sons placed their guilt on the cross. They carry none of it now. I had the privilege to baptize all three of them at the same time a few months ago.... ages 31, 8, & 7.
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Materialist |
Jehovah’s Witness |
Biblical Christian |
Life started millions of years ago |
Life started millions of years ago |
Life started a few thousand years ago |
You can redeem yourself by your works |
You can redeem yourself by your works |
Your works cannot redeem you |
There is no judgment after death |
There is no judgment after death |
It is appointed unto man once to die, then judgment - Heb. 9:27 |
Jesus didn’t die for me personally |
Jesus didn’t die for me personally |
Jesus died for me personally as a scapegaot |
There is no consciousness after death |
There is no consciousness after death |
Dead souls are conscious (Rev. 6: 9-11) |
Jesus is not our Mediator |
Jesus is not our Mediator |
Jesus is our sole Mediator |
Jesus is not in Control |
Jesus is not in Control |
“All Authority in heaven and earth” are given to Jesus |
The New Covenant isn’t for them |
The New Covenant isn’t for them |
The New Covenant is for “all of you” |
A triune God doesn’t exist |
A triune God doesn’t exist |
God is triune |
We are not a tri-partite being |
We are not a tri-partite being |
We are a tri-partite being “in God’s image” Body-Soul-Spirit |
Men are Final Authority |
Men are Final Authority |
New Testament is Final Authority |
I am good |
I am good |
None is good except God |
I finally figured out why I feel like I'm at the Kngdom Hall sometimes on this discussion board.
for those of you who believe in the bible, have you ever seriously thought about the events that led up to the creation of eve?.
genesis 2 - 18 the lord god said, it is not good for the man to be alone.
i will make a helper suitable for him.. .
You wouldn't get anything but a second Adam.
Terry,
XX can come from XY. XY cannot come from XX. The biblical narrative is consistent with this.
The XY sex-determination system is the sex-determination system found in humans, In this system, the sex of an individual is determined by a pair of sex chromosomes (gonosomes). Females have two of the same kind of sex chromosome (XX), and are called the homogametic sex. Males have two distinct sex chromosomes (XY), and are called the heterogametic sex.