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Posts by Perry
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6Stepping off?
by dugout inan ex-bethelite (now an elder in a jersey congo usa) called me the other day and opened up to me about wanting to step down, mainly because he thought he was being a bit overwhelmed.
he mentioned that he spoke to the co about it and some of the socalled friends in the congo .
they put him on this guilt trip.
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Goodbye and thank you.
by wallievase init's come time for me to leave.
i honestly feel at this point continuing to visit this site and others like it is starting to hinder me from moving on by keeping all the feelings of pain, resentment, regret, etc fresh.. i haven't posted a lot since i have been on here but to those of you that replied when i did, i appreciate it very much.
you helped me through a very rough time that is affecting me to this day.
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trying to remember what I left behind.........
by ScottyRex ini watched this tonight and it made me think.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almbxqvwpei have a look x
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Are we heading for III World War?
by abiather inthe leaders of russia, germany, france and ukraine are slated to meet in minsk (the belarusian capital) tomorrow to discuss a ukrainian peace plan!
some countries such as hollande believe there is going to be a total war.
when they met last year in the same place, they had put forward a peace plan (a ceasefire, withdrawal of artillery, prisoner exchanges and other concessions) that were never fully implemented!
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Perry
Attempting to change me by public shaming me is a gigantic waste of your time; it could better be put to use by more of your prophetic enlightenment to the masses.
No one is publically shaming you. Then, you actually do what you claim others to do here:
Let’s cut through all of the bullshit regarding this post. It seems that OPs with scriptural content don’t fare so well these days on the forum, as I’m sure you’ve noticed.
You and those like you deserve mocking and ridicule of the strongest order.Get over yourself. You are not that important, neither am I; or is anyone else. If you allow yourself to get bent out of shape over someone's opinion, you are in for a very rough rollercoaster ride in this life.
Peace
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trying to remember what I left behind.........
by ScottyRex ini watched this tonight and it made me think.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almbxqvwpei have a look x
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trying to remember what I left behind.........
by ScottyRex ini watched this tonight and it made me think.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almbxqvwpei have a look x
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Perry
Doesn't matter what I am. What does matter is that the bible that JW's say they use clearly proves that their doctrine of everyone simply getting a resurrection into paradise just because they died isn't biblical, as the citations prove.
Emotional videos like the one you posted are just that, emotional and NOT biblical.
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trying to remember what I left behind.........
by ScottyRex ini watched this tonight and it made me think.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almbxqvwpei have a look x
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Perry
It is not a biblical hope Scotty, at least the way we used to view it. JW’s have little concept of a personal Judgment for their sins. This is partly due to their heretical views on soul-sleep and partly due to the fact that they are taught that at death, all of their sins are wiped away just by them dying. They base this on their translation of Romans 6: 7 which reads:
For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. - NWT
Most bibles more accurately translate this word acquitted as freed instead of acquitted. This entire chapter and the next is talking about being born again, which Jesus told Nicodemus 3 times that he must do in order to see the Kingdom of God. Looking at the context:
4 So we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, in order that just as Christ was raised up from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also should walk in a newness of life. 5 If we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we will certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection. 6 For we know that our old personality was nailed to the stake along with him in order for our sinful body to be made powerless, so that we should no longer go on being slaves to sin. 7 For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. - NWT
The preceding verse 6 makes it clear that it is our old personality that dies when we are born again, thus freeing us from slavery to sin. Vs. 4 says that we are buried with Christ in baptism so that we would walk in the newness of life. The claim that we are acquitted of our sins just by dying a physical death is a lie from the pit of hell. It is every bit as evil as the lie Satan told Eve. JW’s should be confronted on this.
Even more grievous, is the fact that JW’s have been taught to personally reject the New Covenant, which is the legal instrument that deals with salvation and resurrection unto life.
Matthew 26: 27, 28 And taking a cup, he offered thanks and gave it to them, saying: “Drink out of it, all of you, for this means my ‘blood of the covenant,’ which is to be poured out in behalf of many for forgiveness of sins. - NWT
The reason this scripture is so critical for JW’s to read from their own bible is because they are not taught that the purpose of the New Covenant is for the forgiveness of sins as Jesus here clearly says that it is. They have been taught that the New Covenant is only for government positions in God’s Kingdom. They use :
Luke 22: 29 and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom – NWT
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Luke 22: 29 And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me - KJV
Here the verb appoint in the KJ is accurately translated. The NWT uses the noun form of the word which is not in the Greek. Jesus isn’t making a new covenant different that the one offered at the Lord’s Supper. He is simply appointing positions of authority to members of that New Covenant. The New Covenant is what gives him the legal authority to appoint. Mt. 26: 27 & 28 clearly states that the purpose of the new covenant is for the forgiveness of sins. That fact has almost never been pointed out to JW’s. They will not try to refute this when they read the words of Jesus from their own bible. -
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trying to remember what I left behind.........
by ScottyRex ini watched this tonight and it made me think.......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=almbxqvwpei have a look x
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I'll tell you what I think: Lies From the Pit of Hell!
I wonder why they didn't quote the rest of John 5: 29?
John 5: 28 & 29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
I noticed they didn't quote another very important scripture on the resurrection: Revelation 5th Chapter
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished....Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.... And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire
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Are we heading for III World War?
by abiather inthe leaders of russia, germany, france and ukraine are slated to meet in minsk (the belarusian capital) tomorrow to discuss a ukrainian peace plan!
some countries such as hollande believe there is going to be a total war.
when they met last year in the same place, they had put forward a peace plan (a ceasefire, withdrawal of artillery, prisoner exchanges and other concessions) that were never fully implemented!
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Perry
Only superior force will prevail.
prologos, truer words have never been spoken:
Phil 2: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Looks like the Anti-Christ will wipe out another third of mankind during the 2nd half of the tribulation before Israel invites King Jesus to come back to Jerusalem. They didn't exactly welcome him for very long last time.
King Jesus wipes out the armies of the Anti-Christ with ONLY the spoken word.... cancelling the murderous reign of "that Wicked" "son of perdition". Every knee will will gladly bend after the reign of that homicidal maniac is over.
Looking back it is comical how the Watchtower had me believing that Jehovah would destroy all the wicked at the battle of Armageddon, when in reality it is the Anti-Christ that is doing the killing. Jehovah in the person of King Jesus rids the earth of this genocide.
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Gave my first hour talk sunday before last
by Perry ini started going door to door at age 5 and was giving no.
2 talks by age 7. during the 8 years i was an active adult jw i was never a ms or elder (although i was a regular pioneer once).
so, i never qualified to give an hour talk.
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Perry
Briefly, the approach is this:
The Watchtower has everyone believing they are living in Judgment Day NOW, and that the judgment revolves around how active they are with the Watchtower, ie. meeting attendance, field service etc.
However, Hebrews 9:27 destroys this myth by clearly saying that judgment occurs AFTER a person dies.
The second myth that the Watchtower teaches is that the New Covenant (also called the blood covenant) is ONLY for government positions, (limited to 144K)
Matthew 2: 27 , 28 destroys this myth by clearly stating that the New Covenant is "for the forgiveness of sins".
So, once the JW at your door admits to you that they are not personally part of the new covenant (they will initially claim that they are until you question them about their involvement in the Lord's Supper), you can simply read these two scriptures from their own bible and the problem immediately becomes apparent.
If the NC is for forgiveness of sins and they are not part of the New Covenant, how do they get their sins forgiven?
If handled with love and concern, you'll get the deer in the headlights look every time.
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