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  Babylon the Great and the Anti Christ

  by Perry in

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  similar views as those presented here are gaining in popularity in christian circles.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmrfatdvtm.

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  johnamos,

  Yes, there are many interesting points made. What I find most interesting is that when this video was published 18 months ago, they had no way of knowing that Iran would be given a green light by Obama / Kerry for a pathway for becoming a nuclear superpower. .... not to mention infusing it with hundreds of billions of dollars. This previously seemed very unlikely since Iran is the world's biggest state sponsor of terrorism.... but today it is a reality.

  The idea that Iran will one day nuke Mecca and that Turkey will emerge as the regional "peace" maker by cutting a deal with Israel seems more and more plausible, even likely.

  For all my EX JW friends who are not yet Christian, here's some FYI.

  Many bible scholars do not believe that the Battle of Armageddon is the next end times battle depicted in prophecy. Most see at least three:

  1. Psalms 83 war

  2. Ezekiel 38 & 39 war

  3. Armageddon battle

  BTW, by the time Armageddon is fought (if you can call it it a fight, since Jesus wins with a single word spoken from his mouth) 2/3 of mankind will have already died from wars of the Anti-Christ.

  Contrary to what the Watchtower says, Armageddon is NOT God's judgment upon men. It is God acting decisively to save a remnant of disobedient Israel as well as what's left of the rest mankind from the Anti-Christ, who is Satan incarnate.

  Instead of Aramgeddon being feared, it will be a tremendous hope for believers during the tribulation period because the insanity of the nations instigated by man's chief enemy will finally come to an end.
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  Babylon the Great and the Anti Christ

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  similar views as those presented here are gaining in popularity in christian circles.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgmrfatdvtm.

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  Perry

  Similar views as those presented here are gaining in popularity in Christian circles.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGmRFAtDvTM
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  Family Reuinion and Being Disfellowshipped (sorry...but it's long)

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been a long looong time since i posted on here, but never ceased reading all the posts and keeping up on the changes that have been going on!

  but it just seems that now i have a need to get something off my chest, and this is the one place that will most definitely understand the topic at hand.

  i have been disfellowshipped for about 8yrs now, and have dealt with the 'consequences' of that decision: all my so-called friends in the org left and i was also abandoned by my own family.

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  Perry

  I enjoyed your story very much. I was feeling down several years ago about the practices of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have long likened the Watchtower to the Sicilian mafia, where you can join but can't later leave without consequences.

  A friend of mine changed my perspective.
  

  My friend is an ex-Detroit SWAT Team cop. He also served in the armed forces during the Vietnam conflict. He was also raised in an Islamic family, but later became a bible-believing Christian when he was well into adulthood.

  He explained to me that when he became a Christian, his father looked him in the eye and told him that he was lucky to live in America, because if they were back in Pakistan he would be required to kill him.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are not required to kill us for leaving the Watchtower printing company. I began to see myself as being in relatively pretty good shape compared to hundreds of millions of Muslims. Many are not as fortunate.

  From the Hadith:

  The reason why executing apostates has always been well-ensconced in Islamic law is that there is an indisputable record of Muhammad and his companions doing exactly that according to the reliable Hadith.

  According to verse 4:80 of the Quran: "Whoso obeyeth the Messenger obeyeth Allah."

  Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

  Note that there is no distinction as to how that Muslim came to be a Muslim.

  There is always someone who has it worse.
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  If you could do anything publicly to get JWs out

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and money wasn't an issue, what would it be?

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  Yearly ex-jw pride parade

  
  

  How about EX-JW humility parades where people claiming to be Christian actually submit to the direct authority and Mediatorship of Jesus Christ, and him alone.
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  exJW Billboard is up.

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  waiting on higher resolution photos from wifibandit.. but here is the (redacted) notification from the company.

  apparently they take photos with a potato.. (the billboard directs folks to http://jwawake.com ).

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  Perry

  I just drove past this site and back again yesterday on trip to Dallas, didn't notice it. I have to go next week again and will definitely look for it next time.
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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

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  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  Perry

  That was the last straw for me. I knew they were just making stuff up as they went along after that WT article. I moved off to college shortly thereafter.
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  Hi all, the prodigal daughter returns to JWD.

  by cattails in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been four years (has it really been that long) that i haven't been on jwd.. i was back out west for a long while and i came back to new england.

  just got an appartment with another sister and things are looking up.

  i'm keeping under the radar and avoiding elder visits--not fully out of the kingdom hall yet.

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  Perry

  Welcome back. What would you say is the biggest difference between east coast and west coast JW's is?

  Just curious on your take.
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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

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  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  Perry

  Can you expand on that last statement Finklestein? Don't quite get you on that.
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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  Perry

  I suggest people who are interested in the biblical treatment of

  slavery, rape, polygamy etc. look the subject up on :

  www.christianthinktank.com

  or

  www.carm.org

  All these subjects have been thoroughly researched.
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  On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

  what is new is their institutionalization.

  but even that isn't totally new.

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  Village Idiot,

  The separation of the soul and body is identical to what the Watchtower calls death. It is also identical to what materialists and naturalists call death. I simply used the biblical definition of death. At that moment of separation, the body will appear as if it is sleeping and start to decay rapidly. You however will be as much, or more conscious as you have ever been in your life. I have personally experienced something similar to this on 5 nearly consecutive days. As a result, I simply cannot be deceived by Watchtower nonsense or any other ideology in this particular regard. I have seen it for myself.

  There is a biblical account in 1 Cor. 12: 2 that shows that things like this do occur from time to time:

  I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know, God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven. And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows— how he was caught up into Paradise

  This man (probably Paul himself) experienced the rare occurrence of being in two places at the same time.

  You and every single person reading this thread will be conscious forever. And, there is nothing you or anyone else in the universe can do to stop it. It is your destiny.

  Now, getting back to the topic:

  The reason I post things like I do is certainly not because I think they are popular. I post things like this because after a person is born again, your eyes open and you see what God would really like to do for you. He really, really does not not want to separate from you for eternity, unless you really and truly desire that.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Ep6CrTSm0