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Posts by Perry
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by Perry inleah rimini spent a lot of money before she ditched her cult: .
over the years she says she spent about $2 million for services and training courses and made another $3 million in donations.
among her expenses was $40,000 to compensate scientology for sandwiches... article.
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Could Have Been Worse
by Perry inleah rimini spent a lot of money before she ditched her cult: .
over the years she says she spent about $2 million for services and training courses and made another $3 million in donations.
among her expenses was $40,000 to compensate scientology for sandwiches... article.
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Perry
Leah Rimini spent a lot of money before she ditched her cult:
Over the years she says she spent about $2 million for services and training courses and made another $3 million in donations. Among her expenses was $40,000 to compensate Scientology for sandwiches... Article
At least the WT didn't send me a bill when I left!
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Revised NWT...cross references...Has anyone noticed....?
by 4thgen injust let me say, i hate the gray bible.
when i read the revision of mal 3:10 and they included tithing, i almost vomited.
recently though, my invalid mother asked me to read to her and the only thing available was the gray bible.
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Good catch Naos! The cross reference is heavenly as well!
13 All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. 14 For those who say such things make it clear that they are seeking a country of their own. 15 And indeed if they had been [l]thinking of that country from which they went out, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not [m]ashamed to be called their God; for He has prepared a city for them.
WT teaches that the OT faithful are going to be resurrected on earth.
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Revised NWT...cross references...Has anyone noticed....?
by 4thgen injust let me say, i hate the gray bible.
when i read the revision of mal 3:10 and they included tithing, i almost vomited.
recently though, my invalid mother asked me to read to her and the only thing available was the gray bible.
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Perry
I know the "animal souls" question was for Perry, but I wonder about that as well. I know that Science shows zero evidence for a soul that lives on, but who knows?
Well, I for one can testify that after I was saved, my mom's distant cousin told me that i should pray for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Not thinkng much of it, I prayed for that one time only. About a week later, I started speaking in tongues all night long while my soul was separated from my body, presumably in heaven.
I had the amazing experience of actually being in two places at the same time. I did not however have two consciousnesses. But I could choose the consciousness to be in the body at home, or in the spirit in heaven.
This went on for several days. I would wake up fully at peace, but tired in my spirit. My wife witnesses the speaking in tongues, so I know it wasn't a dream. It was definitely no dream.
You should read up on terminal lucidity, where people, sometimes with their entire brains eaten away with cancer or Alzheimers have a few minutes of complete lucidity a few hours before their death. I believe that to be the soul speaking when it nears departure.
My mother did not have an easy passing recently. I was told that a few hours before her death, with 4 times the medication needed to knock anyone out, that she would have episodes of panic and cry out, " I don't want to die"! She screamed out other things as well. I believe that was her soul expressing it's uncertain destination.
People do not have to be uncertain. God promises KNOWING to his children. I have personally experienced the cocky self assuredness as a fully engaged Watchtower representative, and the KNOWING that God puts into a person supernaturally when they a born again. They are completely different.
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jw.org - online Bible - New World Translation - Study Edition
by Esse quam videri ini went into jw.org to look up a scripture in the nwt and clicked on new world translation - study edition.
i wanted to go into the book of malachi.
the different bible books were laid in a grid pattern and i clicked on malachi.
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Perry
Try this link
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Does God hear the prayers of unbelievers?A stupid question you may say, but wait.
by James Mixon injonah 3:5-10 the people of nineveh prayed that nineveh might be spared.
god.
answer their prayer and god did not destroy the city.. mark 7:24-30 the gentile woman prayed that jesus would deliver her daughter.
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Perry
Of course God hears or is aware of all prayers, because he is God... omniscient. To suggest otherwise, is either an impossibility, or change in the nature of God as defined in the dictionary...and the bible for that matter.
Not only does God know everything now, he knows all things that will ever be known or discovered for all eternity.
But, if you are going to start praying again, I recommend brushing up on how God wants to be viewed and addressed now. Notice how God commands angels to worship Jesus and how he calls Jesus God.
Hebrews 1New King James Version (NKJV)
God’s Supreme Revelation
1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
The Son Exalted Above Angels
5 For to which of the angels did He ever say:
“You are My Son,
Today I have begotten You”?And again:
“I will be to Him a Father,
And He shall be to Me a Son”?6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”
7 And of the angels He says:
“Who makes His angels spirits
And His ministers a flame of fire.”8 But to the Son He says:
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
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A paradox or a contradiction? Titus 1:12
by James Mixon inpaul quoted a cretan who said, "cretans are always liars".. ok, if this was said by a cretan and cretans always lie, then he.
too was lying, but if this cretan was lying when he said cretans always lie,.
then cretans do not always lie and there is a lie in the scripture.
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Revised NWT...cross references...Has anyone noticed....?
by 4thgen injust let me say, i hate the gray bible.
when i read the revision of mal 3:10 and they included tithing, i almost vomited.
recently though, my invalid mother asked me to read to her and the only thing available was the gray bible.
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Perry
In the 1984 edition, it has the "soul" of the widow's child coming back into him when he was resurrected by Elijah in 1 Kings 17: 21-22.
In the 2013 edition of the NWT, it says his "life" came back into him.
The Hebrew word here is "nephesh" or "soul" in English.
Somebody at WT home office did not like this childs' soul coming back into his body when he was resurrected. So, they just changed it.
But we all have a soul that is eternal, which was made in the image of our eternal creator. The Watchtower doesn't like this fact either because it begs the question of WHERE that soul will spend eternity.
Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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Invisible Rulership - one of the dumbest things I ever believed in
by Black Man inhaving now been out of the cult for a few years, it really shocks me about some of the nonsense i used to believe in.
like for instance, christ ruling in the midst of his enemies, but doing so invisibly.. let's let that one sink in for a minute.
you've supposedly got a king who is ruling for a kingdom, but it is an invisible rule.
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Perry
What Beth said.
It's not like Jesus didn't explicitly warn would-be victims of the Watchtower beforehand:
Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers [or invisible]; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be - Mt. 24:26
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The massive gaping hole in Watchtower's understanding of Matthew 25:31-40
by Island Man in(matthew 25:31-40) .
.when the son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne.
32 all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.
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It is apparently these non-christian sheep who will be alive on earth after Armageddon when the devil is abyssed - not christians. This will explain why there are still people on earth to be misled by Satan after the thousand years. Christians have "one hope" - the heavenly one. (Ephesians 4:4) Ignorant non christians who are righteously disposed and treat christians favorably, have the prospect of surviving Armageddon.
The basic scenario accepted by many, if not most Christians is that the rapture will come at Jesus appearing, where he meets the church (new covenant believers) "in the air". (not the 2nd coming, but getting close). This ends the "church age". Immediately after this, the rise of the anti-christ is seen with a number of wars and global destructions ensuing with the nation of Israel at the center of the controversies.
Armageddon is simply the final conflict that is used to defeat the Antichrist and the nations that support him as they gather to defeat the tiny nation of Israel for good.. At that time, Jesus is left as the sole world leader when they learn that Israel is a stone that cannot be moved.... "a stumbling block for all nations".
After the conflict, about a 1/3 of the earth's current population will still be left over from the wars of the Anti-Christ. Of these, those that were kind to the nation of Israel, "Christ's Brothers", will be allowed entry into Christ's Millennium reign. Those nations and peoples caught up in the irrational hatred of Israel and who worked for its demise, are not allowed to enter.
Note: Both groups are surprised that their fate is decided on how they treated Israel.
Remember, God still has a plan for Israel after the Church age is consummated. Romans 11:
I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew.......
For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved,