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  Changing name on organization

  by asp59 in

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  when people hear the name jehovah instead of thinking about god, they think about a religion or organization.

  with all the problems with child abuse and the downhill motion the organization been having.

  do you think they change name of organization?

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  Perry

  Witnesses for Jesus is already taken.
  
  But since Joseph Rutherford came up with the name, I'm thinking Joe's Witnesses might be more appropriate. And if you say Joe's Witnesses real fast, it almost sounds the same. Just a thought.
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  Cofty,

  Hell is an interesting subject. "Outer Darkness" is also spoken of as a destination. Who goes to which? Don't know. However, God knows and is just. Would it be unjust for some people to go to a hot hell? Well they have to go somewhere to await trial at the Great White Throne. God is good, so to reject him is to choose the absence of all that can be possibly be considered as "good". God respects choices.

  From a standpoint of being just ...lots of people have burned others and so a like punishment wouldn't be out of the question. Hitler burned millions in the ovens, arsonists have killed huge numbers of people, burning them alive. So, there are crimes that would qualify in a eye for an eye sort of way.

  One thing that you can be sure of is that most, whatever their crime, would consider most any form of punishment as inappropriate. But it is not the guilty's opinion (who excuse themselves) that matters. However "reasonable" their position, their exists a perfect judge.

  Furthermore, today in "civilized" society we burn little kids all the time. The victims are the most vulnerable and innocent among us....made in the image of God, babies.

  "A needle is inserted through the mother’s abdomen and amniotic fluid is withdrawn and replaced with a solution of concentrated salt. The baby breathes in, swallowing the salt, and is poisoned. The chemical solution also causes painful burning and deterioration of the baby’s skin. 30 to 35 hours later a badly burned and shrived baby is born."

  This hospital was caught burning murdered baby bodies to help heat their facility. Just hideous.
  
  Again, it is not yours or mine opinion that matters on such things. We are the guilty party so our opinion is biased. Further, you might think that burning babies is someone's right. Others might think that hell is too good for perpetrators of such heinous acts. All irrelevant. God's sense of justice is the only one that matters.
  
  God emplors us to first seek peace with him through Jesus' work on the cross and to also seek kindness, goodness and especially grace and mercy. This is the heart and essence of God.

  God encourages us to not seek justice in the way you are doing in attempting to judge God, because we are 100% likely to end up getting what we ask for - Justice.

  And, whatever that justice is we are almost certainly going to be opposed to it. The Gates of Hell are all locked from the inside Cofty. It is chosen just as life is chosen.
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  Ireneus,

  The Israelites were indifferent to God and it was obvious in their life and conduct. They believed that they could not disappoint God because they were His chosen people. They trusted in their religious trappings and in their temple.

  God wanted their love and emotion. He wanted their heart. They did not receive God’s instructions about the sacrifices until AFTER Moses returned from Mount Sinai in Exodus 24:1-12. God’s message to them was simply that He not did ask for sacrifices first. He asked for their love and commitment first.

  Conclusion:

  The same is true today. God wants your love and commitment more than anything else. It is easy for us to love our religious activities and our comfortable life more than Him. The Israelites worshipped God and other things too!
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  Has anyone got a good recipe for curry, for a curry novice?

  by Diogenesister in

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  i really enjoy cooking but one thing i've never mastered is curry.

  i've tried a few online recipes but they haven't turned out too well.

  there's nothing better than a tried and tested, handed down ( or over!

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  Perry

  Here's the one you want to get: Murraya koenigii. There is another curry plant that looks a little like Rosemary, but is not to be eaten.

  You will not be disappointed. The leaves have curative and antibiotic properties according to some lab testing that has been done. Enjoy!

  
  
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  Has anyone got a good recipe for curry, for a curry novice?

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. family

  i really enjoy cooking but one thing i've never mastered is curry.

  i've tried a few online recipes but they haven't turned out too well.

  there's nothing better than a tried and tested, handed down ( or over!

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  Perry

  Indian clients once gave me some fresh curry leaves. Wow! I then purchased a curry plant. They are very hard to find in Texas as they are illegal to ship. Anyway, the curry plant is different than curry powder sold at grocery stores; which, I'm told is actually a blend of spices.
  
  So, far I've only used the leaves in place of parsley and basil. It will make a fantastic soup when added in place of parsley. I love the earthy, organic flavor. The flavor is very different than curry powder.
  
  Just my .02
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  The King James Version conveys the idea more accurately by stating that the Scribes' efforts were in vain. The possession of the accurate "Law of the Lord" (the one they mentally rejected) was also written in vain (at least to them) because they didn't accept it as written.

  V. 8) How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
  

  The book of Jeremiah is probably the most negative book in the bible. It utterly condemns the Israeli generation at that time. Judgment was coming unless they repented, which they didn't; and it did..... just as Jeremiah said it would.
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  Spirits are real waton. The occult is a global practice.

  Ireneus,

  Jeremiah 8:8 is no problem at all. Scribes weren't just secretaries and copyists. .They were also teachers who did exegesis of scripture and in this case, were corruptly interpreting the law... not only with their mouth but also with their pen.... just as you do when you state certain scriptures that you don't like are "weeds".

  Furthermore, the very next verse (9) claims that these false teachers HAD THE WORD OF GOD, BUT REJECTED IT.

  "they have rejected the word of the Lord" V.9 Obviously, they had to have had the Word of God in order to reject it.

  Scripture has been preserved. The Dead Sea scrolls gave us the book of Isaiah, which showed virtually no change in over 1000 years of copying.
  
  Having the Word of God, and speaking & writing accurately about it are not the same things.

  Preservation of Scripture is not a synonym for exegesis.
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.” Hebrews 9:26

  “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. And the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.” John 6:51

  “…waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.” Titus 2:13-14

  “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.” John 3:16

  “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. If anyone serves me, he must follow me; and where I am, there will my servant be also. If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him. “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour’? But for this purpose I have come to this hour.” John 12:24-27

  For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.” Luke 19:5, 9-10

  “For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility between us by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father.” Ephesians 2:14-18

  The purpose of Jesus sacrifice is abundantly clear. His life for yours....that's the offer on the table. We won't get another.
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  Ireneus,

  Jesus himself declared that he came to fulfill the Law, not to dilute or destroy it. (Mathew 5:17) KILLING AN INNOCENT PERSON IN A CRULEST MANNER to atone for the sins of others is in effect fighting sin with greater sin.

  Didn't Jesus say, "I lay down my life ....No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again."

  He also said: that no man hath greater love than this, that he lay down his life on behalf of his friends.

  No sin here that I can see. In fact, this unselfish "giving of ones life so that others can live" is usually one of the highpoints in Hollywood movies because it is an action that is universally recognized as the greatest expression of love that can be performed by humans ..... except when it comes to Jesus of course for heretics. Then it is a sin.

  It is only pure reason that the Omniscient God Almighty will not be led into a situation where He will find Himself in utter helplessness that He will need the help of one of His children to come out of a crisis,

  God is not the one helpless, he is not the one in a crisis. This is a complete upside down view of God and man. We are the ones that are helpless, not God.

  Isaiah 53:6

  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

  Romans 3:10
  

  As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

  or to find Himself in a situation that there is no other way than killing one innocent person—that too His own first born—longest loved son in the first place! Bringing the son through a virgin, and finally killing him through a cruelest manner, and making such a KILLING the basis of forgiveness of people’s sins CANNOT BE an idea originated with God, Jesus nor any prophet.

  And yet, God makes the very thing you reject exceedingly clear:

  15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

  16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. -- John 3: 15-17

  Christ Trades Places :

  For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust - 1 Peter 3: 18
  

  Because fulfillment of such a scheme depends on God’s expectation of consistent behavior of hard-core sinners like Pharisees, which means God should depend on THE CO-OPERATION OF AVOWED SINNERS TO REMOVE SINS!? If it takes a greater sin (killing the innocent son) to remove lesser sins, what does God convey through ransom-teaching—SIN REMOVES SIN?

  Now you are calling God a sinner? God is the one who defines sin, not you. What good parent would not hesitate to run into a burning building to save his children? Why is it heroic for humans to do something like this and a sin for God to do it in your opinion? Very hypocritical to reason this way.

  In God's infinite wisdom, He ordered the death penalty for sin. But, Christ BECAME SIN for us. Through the act of Substitution a way has been found that is acceptable to both the Law giver and to many free moral agents (people) who receive it.

  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. - 2 Cor. 5: 21

  This is the great exchange that is offered to mankind by God.

  If ransom teaching is true, then it only creates more problem than it supposedly solves

  It only creates a "problem" for those who are anti-christ.

  Jesus says some are “good,” (Mathew 12:35) hence not in need of any sacrifice like ransom sacrifice.

  The "good" and "righteous" in the bible are those that put faith in God and actually believe him. This is imputed goodness and imputed righteousness as opposed to inherent righteousness. ALL still gotta have a Savior.

  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith - Phil. 3: 9
  
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  Irrationality of in important teaching

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus used illustration to make things clear.

  hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

  you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

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  Perry

  No one has refuted anything. This is the sound doctrine taught by Jesus himself, his apostles, and all born again Christians for the last 2000 years. Good grief!

  • And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye [all of you] all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. - Mt. 26:27-28 (KJV)

  God spent 1500 years having people celebrate the Passover to get them ready for the arrival of the "Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world". Remember that? That was where the blood of the lamb was placed above the door and on the posts. Those under the blood were saved.

  • For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us - 1 Cor. 5: 7

  I mean I get it that atheists, agnostics and others in other religions do not accept Christs death on their behalf. What boggles my mind though is people who read the scriptures (the SAME ones I do) and come up with the opposite of what is so clearly taught in the scriptures.... like the one cited above. It is just flat out weird, twilight zone sort of stuff.

  The only explanation is some sort of supernatural influence. It is just weird stuff I tell you.

  There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus - Romans 8: 1
  

  And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ - 2 Cor. 4:3