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  Concerned Parent

  by ConcernedParent in

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  i'm writing for some advice from former jws.

  my family is christian, and my 15yo daughter is "dating" a jw boy.

  (the quotes are because they aren't old enough to actually go out on dates... they consider themselves bf/gf and have hung out and gone places with each other, but always with parents, family, etc.

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  Perry

  Can you live with the down side?

  If your daughter is successfully converted (and don't think it can't happen), you will likely never "see" your daughter again, at least in any meaningful way.
  
  She will think Jesus is an angel, believe the governing body of JW's is God's sole channel of communication on earth, and adopt the hideous practice of shunning anyone questioning her beliefs.
  
  You say you are a Christian. Then, be a good christian parent and read where the bible says to marry only in the Lord. That would include dating I'm sure. JW's are anti-christ.
  
  Share everything with your daughter. Hopefully, it is not too late already. You did the right thing by asking former members what they think. There are many Ex-JW-Now-Christian groups on Facebook that you may want to check out as well. They are closed groups... no one can see you post there.
  
  I was a 4th generation JW. Many in my family have had their lives destroyed by this nasty little cult. It took until age 40 to be completely mentally free. I had serious doubts since age 13.

  Don't do this to your daughter. You have a legal, ethical, moral and Christian duty to address this head on. Having a do-nothing attitude is the same as doing all these things to your daughter yourself. She is blinded by her emotions. You are not.

  Here are some tools that I wrote that will help you to understand why JW's are not Christian. You can mostly forget about confronting JW's on their beliefs (like Jesus is not their Mediator). They will lie to your face without skipping a beat and claim just the opposite, although you can show them from their own publications that this is so. Their conscience is seared. They will do anything to protect church leadership, whom they idolize.
  
  I will be praying for your daughter.
  
  - Perry
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  But it's not about the Money

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  money was the motivator.. .

  money.

  again, money was the motivator.. .

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  Perry

  What a rip off! Amazing update for those of us who have been out for a while! Thanks.
  
  I guess the Governing Body are now kicking themselves for bad mouthing the whole tithing thing for so long....No magazines, Books, CDs, DVDs, or Assemblies needed; just collect cold hard cash.
  
  The other major US cult , the Mormons promote a 10% tithe and are far better off financially.
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  The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.

  thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.

  we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.

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  Perry

  Victory is sweet! Congratulations.
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  Universal sovereignty on trial

  by Factfulness in

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  i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

  they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

  god failed to prove his right to rule.

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  Perry

  I know he's fantasy, but lets go with your delusions for the conversation). Let's face it, everything he's ever touched has been a disaster.

  Simon,
  

  I see quite a mix of disasters and victories, not just one or the other. I get it that you hate God. And you call me delusional?

  
  
  
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  The "Whole World" was flooded??

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so, jehovah's witnesses and many other biblical literalists think that the "whole world" was flooded during noahs day.. they take the "accounts" in genesis literally.

  so that means that areas as far away as australia, russia, argentina, greenland, antarctica were all visited by noah and his family to gather animals and preach before it happened right??

  they then took everything back to the middle east to board the ark...uh huh.... yet, the same expression in the bible for the "whole world" is also used in the account about the "worldwide famine" in josephs day!

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  Perry

  This is an image of one of earth's hemispheres from space. As you can see, the idea that the earth was once completely covered with water is nothing more than a myth.
  
  
  
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  I Ain't Got No Religion No More ... (But I Like to Get Myself Some Gospel Music)

  by Simon in

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  i love gospel music.

  i don't feel like i need to believe in "jebus" to appreciate the music.

  i can't go into a gospel church because i might just get religion again - that or i'll be grabbing the mic on be on the stage waving my hands and praising the lord.. i particularly like dylan's gospel period.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lrrq_opng
  
  This is the best-selling Christian single of all time, having been certified 2x platinum by the RIAA, as of 2018.
  
  It is also a great family movie by the same title recently available on Amazon. I believe the artist's journey from a dysfunctional family to an "overcomer" is relevant to JW issues somewhat.
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  traditional English words and phrases.

  by stan livedeath in

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  something i found on facebook..... a bit of interesting history reading .... enjoy ...they used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot & then once a day it was taken & sold to the tannery.......if you had to do this to survive you were "piss poor".

  but worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot......they "didn't have a pot to piss in" & were the lowest of the low.

  the next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.

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  Perry

  Great history lesson!
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  "This Good news Of The Kingdom Will Be Preached In All The Inhabited Earth" ........

  by smiddy3 in

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  ..".for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come" .matt.24:14.. the religion of jehovah`s witnesses kid themselves into thinking they are filling or have fulfilled this prophecy/scripture .. given that you take the jehovah`s witnesses and the international bible students association as one and the same religion , then they have been preaching their message primarily within lands that are predominantly christian based.....and certainly do not cover "all the inhabited earth " as their are many populous non christian nations nations that do not allow, even forbid any proselytizing in their lands.

  i would estimate about one third of the current world population.. but that is not all .. given that you take the jehovah`s witnesses and the international bible students association as one and the same religion ,then they have about 140 years of preaching their beliefs to the public specifically to preach "this good news of the kingdom " as they claim to do in obedience to j.c.commands at matt.24:14.. take a survey no matter where you live on this planet earth of the people in your locality and if you asked them "what was the message jehovah`s witnesses left you and no one would be able to say "they told me about and explained to me the good news of the kingdom" and what it would mean to me.. no one would be able to say that .after 140 years of preaching and witnessing by what is now 8 million plus jehovah`s witnesses .. what a waste of time and energy and lives .. after 140 years of preaching what do the public know about jehovah`s witnesses ?.

  they don`t take blood transfusions .

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  Perry

  In WT theology THEY ARE the Kingdom.

  So, they have preached faith in themselves as Gods channel of communication. In their own deluded minds, they have preached the “kingdom” in all the inhabited earth.

  Of course this is a gospel unknown to the apostles and so they fall under the curse promised in:

  Galatians 1:8-10 King James Version (KJV)
  

  8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

  9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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  LEAK: 3000 buildings to liquidate. How to choose? (Watchtower propaganda video)

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/pzdxen9rvw0.

  as the leaked financial meetings show, watchtower (by it's own admission) has to liquidate 3000+ properties quickly.

  how do they choose?

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  Perry

  The Ole' Harlot aint as pretty as she used to be. Her generation ran out, her clothes became out of style and she developed some strange facial tics like opening her eyes unusually wide while speaking. Gone are the days of the slick, bombastic crooning by Franz and Knorr.

  She got old. She can't get the price that she used to get. Christianity, on the other hand is growing.
  

  Over the past 100 years, Christians grew from less than 10 percent of Africa’s population to its nearly 500 million today. One out of four Christians in the world presently is an Africa, and the Pew Research Center estimates that will grow to 40 percent by 2030.

  The global religious wildcard is China. Demographers estimate that more Christian believers are found worshipping in China on any given Sunday than in the United States.
  
  And despite requiring the death penalty, Muslims are turning to Christ in unprecedented numbers.
  
  Christians have been preaching the core doctrines of Justification, Sanctification & Glorification of believers for 2000 years and will continue until raptured.

  WT, please keep preaching about how awesome your organization is, please, pretty please. Please keep preaching your false gospel of universal sovereignty, sanctification of Jehovah's Holy Name etc.
  
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  LEAK: 3000 buildings to liquidate. How to choose? (Watchtower propaganda video)

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/pzdxen9rvw0.

  as the leaked financial meetings show, watchtower (by it's own admission) has to liquidate 3000+ properties quickly.

  how do they choose?

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  Perry

  Looks like they know that business as usual is nearing its end. They are liquidating to grab as much cash as possible. They likely don't know where the bottom is. Until they do, they'll just sit on as much liquidity as possible.
  
  I do have a question for everyone here. From what I understand, Canada prohibited charities from making loans 2 or 3 years ago. Does anyone know if other countries have passed similar legislation? What about the USA?

  It is my understanding that the WT cancelled KH loans so as to retain their tax exempt status in Canada.
  
  Did they cancel loans in certain countries or globally?

  Thanks

  - Perry