Posts by BoogerMan

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

@ Fisherman - "That is why it is taking so long. God is waiting for everybody to repent."

How does that work? The world's population increases yearly, and it appears less people are turning to Christianity?

@ vidquin - You references -

YOU who have followed me will also yourselves sit upon twelve thrones.

Thrones - (Gr. thronos) judges i.e. tribunal or bench. (Jesus said they would judge)

a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation,

Being priests of the King/High priest would make them a royal priesthood. (not kings themselves)

and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God, and they are to rule as kings over the earth. (Rev. 5:10)

Rev. 20:6 - "...but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years."

In these last 2 scriptures which you quote, the Greek word βασιλεύς (basileús) does not exclusively mean 'king.' It also describes a leader of the people, prince, commander, lord of the land.

In the original Greek (ignore Bible translations!) Revelation 5:10 says, "and they are to reign upon the earth," not 'over' it, as if they are in some sort of ethereal situation. The meek inherit the earth!

In what capacity? Psalm 45:16 - "...princes in all the earth."

Interestingly, regarding Revelation 20:6, no Bible translation - except the NWT - inserts the word 'king'

All of them - without exception - translate the Greek word βασιλεύς (basileús) as 'reign,' not 'king.'

Bottom line: What justification would any Christian have to claim a share of Christ's kingship & glory?

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

aqwsed12345 - "Satan lost his power with Jesus' redemption, and through grace Christians truly became "kings and priests."

Where did you get the phrase "kings and priests" from? There's only one king.

Certainly not from a Greek concordance. How many kings are needed at any one time?

The NWT plagiarised the false term, because it suited their dogma.

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JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

BoogerMan

(Proverbs 13:12) Expectation postponed makes the heart sick...

Who was it exactly who drilled the expectation of "the end" into our lives & minds?

Oh right - it was Jesus!

(Matthew 24:36) “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.

(Acts 1:7) “It does not belong to you (the "anointed") to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

@ Vienne & Slim - I know the cult doesn't teach that the 1000 year reign began in 1914 - my point.

They can't have it it both ways: "Christ began ruling in 1914, but he didn't start reigning then." 😂😂😂

The org always wants to speak out of both sides of its mouth.

Spoiler alert for JW's: Christ's reign began in 33 C.E. when he became priest/king at his ascension. (Hebrews 6:20 - "Jesus, who has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.")

The "1000 years" referred to at Revelation 20:4,6 are the final years of Christ's reign when believers/Christians will eventually "reign" - upon the earth, - βασιλεύω - to reign, of the governor of a province, of the reign of Christians in the millennium. (see Psalm 45:16 & Rev. 5:10 K.I.T.)

After the 1000 years unbelievers will be resurrected - as stated at Revelation 20:5 - and not as the org perversely claims, during the 1,000-year reign.

These are the ones who will be tested, not the believers who "reigned" for 1000 years in peace.

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"How Long Would Jesus' Reign Be?"

by BoogerMan in

simple enough question for a jw to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that, .

a) jesus would reign for 1000 years, and.

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became king.

BoogerMan

Simple enough question for a JW to answer, because the org has told them for over 100 years that,

a) Jesus would reign for 1000 years, and

b) that his reign began in 1914 when he became King.

Therefore, we are now 109 years into the millennium, with only another 891 years left to go.

Why didn't anyone tell me that I'd missed these two major events? -

(Revelation 20:2) He seized the dragon, the original serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years.

(Revelation 20:4) And they came to life (resurrected) and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years.

Spoiler: w82 4/1 p. 24 par. 14 - "Since all “the rest of the dead” that are resurrected during* Christ’s 1,000-year reign...."

* Revelation 20:5 - "The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended."

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"Independent" Scotland joke!

by BoogerMan in

humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

BoogerMan

"We can NEVER be free" sounds like Mel Gibson in Braveheart. 😂

Freedom to choose the E.U. parliament to control your borders, laws & taxes, instead of the U.K. parliament?

In a global economy, Scotland will always be subjected to the T's & C's of someone else in order to survive.

Being part of the UK gives it a fighting chance. On its own, it will never be "independent," it'll be gobbled up.

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Babylon the Great and the Bio-Pharmaceutical Complex

by was a new boy in

a biblical interpretation of the covid-19 vaccine fiasco.

peter a. mccullough, md, mph™.

jul 8, 2023. .

BoogerMan

I thought the Biblical implication was that BTG was a powerful entity with which God's people (Christians) were unwittingly embedded with, hence the warning, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues." (Rev. 18:4)

Christians don't generally have any affiliation/loyalty to Big Pharma, IMO.

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Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

by pizzahut2023 in

ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

BoogerMan

@ aqwesed - You claimed (as most/all trinitarians do) "But because Jesus was both God and man in one person..."

1) Do you disagree/believe this: Matthew 20:28 - “‘For this is how the Son of Man came… Not to be served, but to serve and to give his life as a ransom for many.”

2) Do you disagree/believe this: 1 Timothy 2:5, 6 - "...a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all."

3) Do you disagree/believe this: 1st Corinthians 15:21,22,45 - Jesus replaced Adam as mankind's life-giving ancestor, with the whole human race owing their life to him, not to Adam. That will include everyone who is resurrected, and all those who survive the end. Isaiah 9:6 confirms this, by prophetically calling Jesus, “Everlasting Father.”

If Jesus' ransom corresponds to what Adam lost, it logically follows (if your claim is true) that Adam himself must have been "fully God & fully man," otherwise, Jesus' ransom price was far, far, greater than what Adam forfeited, and not "corresponding.".

Have you ever heard of such an anomaly with a ransom?

When can a ransom repurchase price ever be greater or lesser than what was lost?

If you can, please provide scriptural references if you disagree with anything here.

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Chat AI shows Jesus was not god

by enigma1863 in

title: jesus' perception of himself: a nuanced view of equality in a patriarchal society.

introduction:.

the perception of jesus christ's divinity has been a subject of theological debate for centuries.

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@ pokertopia - I've looked at numerous Bible versions, but I can't find any which says or infers, "there is no miracle I can show."

Every Bible I've looked at says, "no sign will be given."

Can you cite your source?

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"Independent" Scotland joke!

by BoogerMan in

humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

BoogerMan

@ sbf - how can you totally ignore/dismiss the economic disaster which a 'Yes' vote would bring down on Scotland's population as previously stated?

"During 2021-22 tax revenue generated in Scotland amounted to about £73.8 billion, including North Sea oil revenue. During the same period, Scotland benefited from about £97.5 billion in public spending, a difference of £23.7 billion."

How many financial lemmings live in Scotland?