Posts by BoogerMan

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A City Having Real Foundations.

by LostintheFog1999 in

someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.

so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.

after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.

BoogerMan

@ Blondie: "...see how the first-century governing body discussed and resolved a dispute with the help of the Scriptures and holy spirit."

This is what the ~~faithful~~ evil slave says. but not what the Scriptures say:

bt chap. 13 p. 103 - "....the first-century governing body settled the circumcision issue..."

Galatians 2:1-6 shows that it was the apostle Paul who was used to resolve the issue, being directed by a revelation to teach the older men in Jerusalem - not the other way around. (especially verses 2 & 6)

1 ...after 14 years I again went up to Jerusalem with Bar?na·bas, also taking Titus along with me.

2 I went up as a result of a revelation, and I presented to them the good news that I am preaching among the nations.

3 Nevertheless, not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, although he was a Greek.

4 But that matter came up because of the false brothers brought in quietly, who slipped in to spy on the freedom we enjoy in union with Christ Jesus, so that they might completely enslave us;

5 we did not yield in submission to them, no, not for a moment, so that the truth of the good news might continue with you.

6 But regarding those who seemed to be important whatever they were makes no difference to me, for God does not go by a man’s outward appearance - those highly regarded men imparted nothing new to me.

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A City Having Real Foundations.

by LostintheFog1999 in

someone asked me recently when did i start to have doubts as an elder about what i was teaching from the platform.. i have given it a lot of thought and i can say that it was when i was delivering a public talk about the book of hebrews.

so i paused and read it again.. i looked at the audience and said to them let's look at the cross-reference for this verse which is hebrews 12:22 and i read that verse.

after which i remember saying "and this is how the outline puts it.... " and i read from the outline verbatim.. abraham was not looking forward to an earthly kingdom hope.

BoogerMan

@ Raymond Frantz: The problem I have about a "heavenly hope" centres on the ransom:

(Matthew 20:28) ...to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.”

In anyone's reasoning, a ransom never exchanges/replaces with something better or greater, and since Adam forfeited perfect life on earth for every single one of his prospective descendants, surely that is what the ransom should return????????

(1 Corinthians 15:22) For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.

If there are two hopes - heaven & earth - then some mental gymnastics are required to alter these verses:

(John 10:16) "...they will become one flock, one shepherd." (A flock in heaven and earth? That's two flocks!)

(Ephesians 4:4) . . .the one hope . . . (not two!)

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My decision.

by MissDaSilva in

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i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.

i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.

amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.

BoogerMan

I hope you absolutely thrive in your cult-free life! 🧡

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Encouraging scriptures for the day

by Kosonen in

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hello my friends,.

here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.

revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).

BoogerMan

@ Kosonen: Clinging to the org's false dogma that Jesus' words at Matthew 24:14 & Mark 13:10 have a "greater fulfilment" 2000 years later, is being self-deceptive.

1) The "good news" (gospel) about Jesus & the kingdom was preached - in the 1st century:

(Colossians 1:23) "....not being shifted away from the hope of that good news that you heard and that was preached in all creation under heaven...."

(1 Timothy 3:16) ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’

Who exactly did Jesus commission to carry out that 1st century "worldwide preaching work?"

(Acts 1:2,4,6,8,-9) "....after he had given instructions through holy spirit to the apostles he had chosen. While he was meeting with them, (the apostles) he ordered them: “Do not leave Jerusalem, So when they (the apostles) had assembled, they (the apostles) asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”...But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you (the apostles) will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” After he had said these things, while they (the apostles) were looking on, he was lifted up and a cloud caught him up from their sight."

Yup - the 11 apostles + Paul - not rank & file Christians.

2) The events which Jesus described in Matthew 24, were a one-off, things which Jesus said would never be repeated: (Matthew 24:21) "...for then there will be great tribulation..., no, nor will occur again."

Which part of "no, nor will occur again" was so difficult for us as JW's to understand? 🤔

3) As for the "last days," Christ revealed to the apostle John who would be assigned to inform & warn the world at that time. It certainly wasn't going to be any corrupted Christian denomination's responsibility:

Revelation 11:3, 7 - I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth.” When they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them."

Revelation 14:6, 7 - "And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. He was saying in a loud voice: “Fear God and give him glory."

Neither of these inspired accounts point to any human organization's involvement - especially not JW's.

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UK Council Tax arrears - Did you face or are you facing BAILIFFS???

by BoogerMan in

interesting new legal protection:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfj5fac4rke.

BoogerMan

Interesting new LEGAL protection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfj5FAC4rKE

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spirit directed organization

by enoughisenough in

i was watching a video about wt and money and the "brother" refers to the "spirit directed organization.

" he also says they use donations wisely and modestly.

are the gb so deluded and therefore their followers?

BoogerMan

"He also says they use donations wisely and modestly."

So why does the WTBTS/CCoJW conceal its annual "charitable" income & expenditure from its 8m + adherents?

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Hand Grenade Time

by MissDaSilva in

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friends

decided i’m going to go out with a bang.

just posted a merry christmas meme on my watsapp status.

in portuguese but it’s very clear what it means with the baubles etc…... i will keep you posted on people’s reactions.

BoogerMan

Enjoy the fireworks!!!!

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Unacceptable type/antitype for JW'S.....

by BoogerMan in

.........because it would cancel out their "upper & lower class christians" fairy story - aka the anointed & non-anointed.. antitype: the fleshly nation of israel and exodus foreigner converts were participants of the mosaic covenant.. type: christianity - the israel of god ("spiritual israel") and gentile converts became participants in the new covenant..

BoogerMan

.........because it would cancel out their "upper & lower class Christians" fairy story - aka the anointed & non-anointed.

ANTITYPE: The fleshly nation of Israel and Exodus foreigner converts were participants of the Mosaic Covenant.

TYPE: Christianity - the Israel of God ("spiritual Israel") and Gentile converts became participants in the New Covenant.

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Were we really meant to live forever?

by Leathercrop in

our capacity for adaptation (there's an official term somewhere) is apparently very vast.

meaning that whatever is a novelty always becomes old news and apparently it happens very quickly.

human beings in fact have to put a lot of effort into not discarding valuable things and relationships because of our overwhelming tendency to become incredibly used to it and just plain bored with them.

BoogerMan

Were we really meant to die forever? 🙁

No one in their right might would want to live forever on the earth, the way things are just now.

If you were given the choice, which one would you choose: a temporary life - 840 months, or a permanent one ?

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Predictions for the next decade?

by jehovaxx in

as it’s nearly the new year my prediction over the next decade or so will see the sense of urgency dwindle.

then some huge huge changes.

for example by 2034 in a decades time, they will have address the 1914 issue and will come out and say we can’t be dogmatic.

BoogerMan

Maybe the org will come clean and admit the truth - that the "last days" haven't even started yet!