hey all,.
just to get an idea as to how many people are coming to toronto for the next apostofest, in case i need to make reservations at various places...all because the toronto international film festival will be taking place on the same weekend!
when you let me know if you're coming, also state on which day you'll be arriving and which day you'll be departing.. thanks, .
Hey all,
Just to get an idea as to how many people are coming to Toronto for the next Apostofest, in case I need to make reservations at various places...all because the Toronto International Film Festival will be taking place on the same weekend!
When you let me know if you're coming, also state on which day you'll be arriving and which day you'll be departing.
Thanks,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
has anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.
i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.
if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?
Right on AlanF!
Peter
i am thinking about becoming a jehovas witness.
i saw on this one show where two jws got in a car accident and needed blood but wouldn't take it.
a jw pastor, i think got up and said that our creator would be greatly offended by this practice.
Hey crbloss,
The Awake! magazine of June 22, 1982 sets forth JWs position on blood. In that magazine, there is a list of permitted and forbidden blood components that JWs can and cannot accept. Here's the list...and from the permitted blood components, please tell me which ones are alternatives or bi-products.
FORBIDDEN BLOOD COMPONENTS AND PRACTICES:
-whole blood
-plasma
-white blood cells (leukocytes)
-red blood cells
-platelets
-storing patient's own blood for subsequent trasfusion
PERMITTED BLOOD COMPONENTS AND PRACTICES:
-immunoglobulins
-Hemophiliac preparations (Factor VIII & IX)
-diversion of patient's blood through heart-lung machine
Hmmm...for one, did you know that the Hemophiliac preparations are made from massive amounts of blood? For example, each batch of Factor VIII is made from plasma that is pooled from as many as 2,500 blood donors. Wait...isn't plasma on the Forbidden list? Hmmm....
Also...Plasma composes about 55% of the volume of blood. So the Society forbids it. Yet, Plasma is 93% water and the remaining 7% is made of albumin, globulins, fibrinogen and coagulation factors (used in the permitted Hemophiliac preparations). And these are precisely the components the organization lists as allowable to its members.
In other words, plasma bad...individual components good...it's like someone telling you that you cannot eat a ham and cheese sandwich...but if you take it apart and eat everything separately, then it's OK. Again, hmmm.....
Now we'll deal with Leukocytes, often called white blood cells, which are also prohibited. Most of the leukocytes exist outside the bloodstream and in the body...around 97% of them are in the body. Meaning that when a JW accepts an organ donation, he'll/she'll simultaneously receive into their body more foreign leukocytes than in a blood transfusion. Hmmm...
Did you know that while human blood contains around 4,000 to 11,000 leukocytes per cubic millimeter, a human mother's milk during the first few months of lactation may contain up to 50,000 leukocytes per cubic milllimeter? Why hasn't the society forbidden mothers to breast feed their babies then?
To produce one vaccination (that originally the society did not permit because they were made of blood, but later changed the policy because of lawsuits and deaths), close to 3 liters (around 3/4 of a gallon) of blood are needed as the source of the supply.
Hardly a small amount, won't you agree?
You should do your homework before mumbling the society's propaganda.
Seriously...if the society really believed that No blood means No blood...then vaccinations would not be allowed, the Rh shot (for mothers having incompatibility problems with their fetus) would not be allowed, albumin, immunoglobulins, and Hemophiliac preparations....they all would NOT be allowed by the society. But they are...so please think about that.
With all sincerety and respect,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
*Blood info taken from R.Franz's book "In Search of Christian Freedom", chapter 9, pages 286 to 290.
i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.
perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this
Hey HadEnough,
I'd love to see the tape...hopefully next time you come to Toronto you'll bring it along!
Peter
i am thinking about becoming a jehovas witness.
i saw on this one show where two jws got in a car accident and needed blood but wouldn't take it.
a jw pastor, i think got up and said that our creator would be greatly offended by this practice.
Everyone that you know says that the Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult? Who is everyone you know?
By the way...most people wouldn't realize that the JWs are a religious cult because of outside appearances...you know, clean cut, seem to be smiling, etc. But don't let appearances fool you...
By the way...the JWs position on blood is changing little by little.
Are you aware that originally vaccinations were not allowed for JW members because they are made from blood? Eventually, after many deaths and lawsuits, the society changed that.
Then, the blood issue...as of right now, more than half of the blood components are allowed for JWs to take in a blood tranfusions...except most JWs don't realize that. They are only told that once they arrive in the hospital, and the hospital liaison committee (made up by a bunch of elders and such) advises them what they are allowed to take and what they can't take.
Once someone becomes a JW, their entire lives become extremely controlled...down to what married people are allowed and not allowed to do in the privacy of their own bedroom. It certainly smells like a cult to me.
Just my observations, thoughts and opinions,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.
perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this
Damn...I just got home after 8PM and I found out from the thread here that it was Hot Type....
Did anyone see the show and/or tape it? How was it???
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
has anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.
i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.
if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?
Ray Franz himself, who was behind most of the Aid book discussed his thoughts on 607 in one of his books. As he said, he found it very hard himself to believe that the fall of Jerusalem happenned in 607, because all the evidence, and most importantly, the bible itself, pointed to another date.
That's my opinion on the matter,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.
perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this
Hey Maximus,
I checked with the on-line TV Guide listings as well as CBC's web-site....and there's nothing airing tonight under the name "Straight Talk". I checked a few other shows that also cover current affairs and events...but nothing on JWs or James Kostelniuk's book....that is, nothing that is listed anyways. Now, if it's a last minute programming change and they haven't updated their on-line info, that's another matter.
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i've been given some sketchy information that says the cbc is presenting its program straight talk tonight, possibly 7 pm eastern time.. in that program james kostelniuk's book and personal story will be covered.. "sheep among wolves," the story of murder in a jehovah's witness community.
perhaps someone in canada could check this out and publish details below, or correct this
I'll be out tonight, but I'll set my VCR to record CBC tonight...
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
religionists are the enemies of god because they have forms of pretended worship of god but they have no real devotion to god and to his kingdom.
...the foregoing evidence proves conclusively that religion is a racket and that those who practice it for gain are racketeers...who rob the people of their money, take away their liberty of thought and action and put in jeopardy their lives.. enemies by j.f.
rutherford published in 1937 page 190. of course the judge was talking about the roman catholic church primarily.
Simply amazing how his words apply to the present day WTS...
-pretend worship of God (the "faithfull and discreet slave" is who you listen to....they speak for God, and between them and the governing body...well, you get the picture.)
-no real devotion to God (must follow the "mother" organization and not run ahead of it)
-religion is a racket and those who practice it for gain are racketeers (they keep buying and buying buildings in Brooklyn, they live in bethel with all their daily needs taken care of by member donations, they defend their idiotic policies with high priced lawyers (don't tell me that they donate their time), they don't help out their members in places of need...ever wonder why they don't send free magazines and books to members in Africa?...where 10 people share one book or magazine)
-rob people of their money (donate, donate, donate...don't have higher education, work at menial jobs so you do more in service, attend all meetings)
-take away their liberty of thought and action (do whatever the WTS says, or face disfellowshipping...but oh...these aren't rules, they are simply suggestions....yeah right!)
-put in jeopardy their lives (first no vaccinations, then no organ transplants, then no blood transfusions...now the first two are allowed)
Just my thoughts on the matter,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
