Posts by FragrantAddendum

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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

that's nice

Various account in the Fathers, on the basis of these verses, I repeat, the Church Fathers themselves who you owe the very preservation and canonization of the New Testament to, claim that these 'appearences' were likely "apparitions" if they did occur at all.

i don't have any connection to those apostate "church fathers"

to me they're just another version of the gb

they made a bunch of stuff up and it wasn't in harmony with the ancient jewish writings

Nowhere in the Biblical text, and nowhere in the Fathers do we read of a resurrection of these "saints" being "flesh and blood" and that these were seen as you state.

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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

anyway, many jews wrote about the flesh-and-blood resurrections of old performed by elijah and elisha

so when god resurrected some dead people back to human life at jesus' death

it wasn't like it had never happened before

when elisha was asleep in death god did a resurrection in association with elisha's remains

jesus had healed people from a distance before

so god choosing to resurrect a bunch of dead faithful jews in association with the death of jesus for a sign

and when the army officer and those with him saw it

they declared, regarding christ "truly this is god's son"

35

Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

KalebOutWest: "The Greek word "resurrection" does not mean to come back to life as a spirit person after death. The word means "to stand up, again," as in "physically.""

KalebOutWest: "The text does not use the word "resurrection."
Matthew 27:52 reads:
καὶ πολλὰ σώματα τῶν κεκοιμημένων ἁγίων ἠγέρθησαν
And many bodies of the sleeping saints rose
The word "resurrection" does not occur."

The word "saints" was not used in the original.

while some english translations there read "saints" the pentecost pouring out of holy spirit hadn't happened yet

none of the jews were anointed yet so they weren't "saints"

jesus hadn't ascended to heaven yet

the jews who were resurrected as referred to in mt 27:52 are called ἁγίων

ἁγίων is better translated "holy ones"

35

Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

matthew was jewish

mark was jewish

paul was jewish

luke, peter, james, john, jude...all jewish

35

Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

that the jews believed in two kinds of resurrections is clear from the scriptures

35

Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

i'm not arguing with you, @kaleb, i agree on the standing again thing in the flesh

the resurrections that elijah and elisha did were not some kind of "spirit thing" they were of flesh and blood people

that's why when jesus came back it was something different that hadn't been done before and hasn't been done since

no one had ever been resurrected as a spirit creature

and no one else has since

jesus materialized a body in order to show he'd been resurrected

none of the other "saints" have done that because none of them have been resurrected

the wt teaching that the 144,000 are already resurrected since 1914 or 1918 or whatever they're teaching these days is false

the mt 27 thing where it says the bodies came out of the graves and were seen was a flesh and blood resurrection like the ones elijah and elisha did - they weren't "spirits" who appeared like ghosts or something

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Who is this Guy?

by Slidin Fast in

jw
friends

the ra is underway and there is a common thread through the first day.

they have a "presenter" who comes across as an educated historian handling early bible fragments and translations as if he knows what he's doing.

the impression given is that he is an unassailable font of all knowledge, with his rich scottish accent he prints himself as across as professor gravitas.. i find this disturbing, we have no idea who he is or what if any his qualifications are to speak such with authority.

FragrantAddendum

he sounds irish to me

are you talking about this guy?

25

Who is this Guy?

by Slidin Fast in

jw
friends

the ra is underway and there is a common thread through the first day.

they have a "presenter" who comes across as an educated historian handling early bible fragments and translations as if he knows what he's doing.

the impression given is that he is an unassailable font of all knowledge, with his rich scottish accent he prints himself as across as professor gravitas.. i find this disturbing, we have no idea who he is or what if any his qualifications are to speak such with authority.

FragrantAddendum

nah, if i post too many normal posts, i'll get kicked out for not being crazy enough🤪

it happens wherever i go - i get kicked out for speaking truth

so i throw in some crazy stuff now

i've gotta keep up my "image" of insanity

how am i doing?😂

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Hey, Regarding the "Resurrection" thing and the WT denial of the Mt 27:51-53 incident...

by FragrantAddendum in

so according to bible.

elisha's bones were there when jehovah resurrected some other dude.

jesus could heal from a distance by power of god.

FragrantAddendum

some jews were faithful

some jews were apostates

there is nothing new under the sun

the faithful jews, like mary and martha and lazarus, knew that the dead waited asleep in the grave

the patriachs are still asleep in the grave

no one ascended to heaven yet at that point, not even jesus

but some of the faithful jews who had recently died were resurrected when jesus died (although they did die again, just like lazarus did)

some of those faithful jews were later present at the pentecost meeting and became part of the 144,000 anointed ones

those faithful jews died and still await their resurrection

no one has been resurrected to heaven at this point except jesus

there are no witnesses to any other "spirit" type resurrection except his

25

Who is this Guy?

by Slidin Fast in

jw
friends

the ra is underway and there is a common thread through the first day.

they have a "presenter" who comes across as an educated historian handling early bible fragments and translations as if he knows what he's doing.

the impression given is that he is an unassailable font of all knowledge, with his rich scottish accent he prints himself as across as professor gravitas.. i find this disturbing, we have no idea who he is or what if any his qualifications are to speak such with authority.

FragrantAddendum

avise la fin

perhaps time will tell

"wisdom is proved by its children"

perhaps he has a degree, but if you are disturbed, you could just block your ears

I find this disturbing, we have no idea who he is or what if any his qualifications are to speak such with authority. So, does any one know who he is or where he has appeared from. Is he a fraud or is he educated?"

https://youtu.be/u9Dg-g7t2l4