Posts by WhatshallIcallmyself

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Bible is good if we look for implied truth

by venus in

thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.

but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.

similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"atheists and agnostics think of themselves as more open-minded than those of a religious bent, but are actually less tolerant to differing opinions and ideas" - venus

When you believe in and preach bollocks it is harder to be intolerant to other bollocks because the same arguments you would use against their bollocks would also apply to yours. Therefore it is better to tolerate another's bollocks lest attention is drawn to your own...

Atheists and agnostics on the other hand don't have to worry about defending bollocks and are therefore in a better position to call the bollocks believer to account.

Also, I think a stone age man would probably also tell you to fuck off, as I doubt they were dumb enough to accept your nonsense...

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Big xJW scandal

by Charlotte in

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WhatshallIcallmyself

If people have evidence of a crime then report it to the authorities. If you don't have evidence then shut the fk up. I'm getting really fked off with these "hashtag warriors" who think it is fine to throw around accusations and that "social justice" trumps the justice system.

Real crimes are being watered down in people's minds due to this type of behaviour. Women and men who are victims are finding it harder to get this behaviour taken seriously due to the amount of 'crime' being revealed online.

A fine example of this is the social media channel being used by members of staff at the English Parliament to complain of sexual abuse whilst at work; yet where are the complaints to the police?

People, quite rightly, are beginning to treat these things as bandwagon complaints from attention seeking idiots.

Charlotte, you can take your first post and #stickitwherethesundontshine

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Darwin's lack of evidence

by Half banana in

while making bread this morning and between answering the door and phone calls, i listened on steam radio to the programme in our time with melvyn bragg.

his panel of experts explained how the discovery of thousands of bird fossils has revolutionised our perception of avian evolution.

i recall watchtower literature smugly presenting darwin’s admissions in his origin of the species that the geological evidence for bird evolution is “imperfect” in fact missing.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"Maybe. But don't confuse evidence with interpretation and conclusions." - Fisherman

Shouldn't you learn about the subject you so like to belittle before attempting to offer your opinion on it?

In your world "god did it" may be an easy explanation but out here in reality that answers nothing and helps no one.

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The wonder of scientific research

by amicabl in

this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"I was in hospital for 24 days mostly because they couldn't find a suitable blood thinner for me. Really?" - amicabl

Blood clots to the brain are super cool; they should have let you out early.

And who needs prostate exams? It's all just hyped up nonsense to make money for those scheming doctors.

JWs often argue that science education isn't necessary because "who do you know that makes use of their science education in their everyday jobs".

I think amecabl is a good example of why science education is important.

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Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.

by HealthySkeptic in

the purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.

i am an active jw.

the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.

WhatshallIcallmyself

"Gene Roddenberry the creator of the Star Trek series talked to these other worldly beings through spiritistic means and got some of his ideas that he would later use in Star Trek. They identified themselves as the council of nine or the Ennead of ancient Egypt" - (un-?)hs

What has to happen to someone in order for them to actually believe this silliness? Still, for entertainment value, these few posts of unHealthySkeptic have been interesting.

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Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.

by HealthySkeptic in

the purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.

i am an active jw.

the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.

WhatshallIcallmyself

HS - It seems like you want to live in an echo chamber. If you don't want to be criticised then you will never learn when you are wrong or going down the wrong path. Perhaps you need to rethink your username?

"Don't believe everything you read. Do the research yourself. This also includes what I type. Look into it yourself"

How often is this phrase recited by those who do not follow their own advice? Maybe it is due to the conditioning that JWs receive to makes them think that their way of 'researching' reaches the truth of the matter...

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What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

by Ponyo in

.....the truth was not the truth... ?

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WhatshallIcallmyself

The flood mainly and the language used in their articles and books.

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Just woke up turn TV on to hear yet another nut case with a gun.

by Still Totally ADD in

jw
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first they said 20 dead with 100 injured.

now i just heard 50 dead and 200 injured.

whatever it is it just another nut case who was able to get a high power gun to kill people.

WhatshallIcallmyself

Guns don't kill people, rappers do...

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Human Origins

by cofty in

fantastic graphic produced by the smithsonian institute illustrating human origins.

click on any of the group or species labels for more detailed information.. meet your ancestors here....

WhatshallIcallmyself

Fisherman -

Can you think of a way that these prints could have been made before these sedimentary layers were deposited?

Can you think of a way that these prints could have been left in solid rock?

No you can not.

Therefore these prints were made sometime after the sediments being deposited and before they were buried under subsequent layers.

Therefore if the deposition rate is such that this will occur within the margin of error for the particular dating method we can date the prints by testing the rocks.

You are wrong because we can date these prints within a margin of error by testing the rocks.

You are basically asking for nothing to be tested (i.e. the lack of rock that makes the footprint visible) and that is very similar to the creationist who demands the names of all transitional species from the beginnings of time to now before they will accept evolution.

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Human Origins

by cofty in

fantastic graphic produced by the smithsonian institute illustrating human origins.

click on any of the group or species labels for more detailed information.. meet your ancestors here....

WhatshallIcallmyself

"Fact is that the dating does not date the prints directly but the unknown date of the prints depend on interpretation." - Fisherman

That is wrong. The date of the prints is known to an acceptable level of error, the same level of error that is given to all radiometrically dated strata.

As I said above, the prints were not made before these sediments were laid down, they were made afterwards (that much is obvious I hope). They also had to have been made before the surface where the prints are now recorded was buried so deep that no footprints could reach them (that also should be obvious). That gives you the relative time frame for these prints being made. The absolute time frame is given by radiometric dating methods. The relative time frame is less than the margin of error for this type of testing so therefore whatever time frame the date testing gives is accurate for the purpose of understanding these imprints.

This is simple extrapolation of available evidence. The only question of relevance for this particular find is whether they are what they appear to be i.e. human footprints.