this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Douglas-Futuyma/dp/0878931872
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Douglas-Futuyma/dp/0878932232
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-Douglas-Futuyma/dp/1605351156
All 3 editions of the same book. Very good but you will need google close at hand to look up some of the terminology. But if you really want to understand evolution without getting a degree then this book is certainly worth the effort (and cost...)
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
"Yes thanks we have read that website and he feels that he doesn't know whether or not to believe it" - KateWild
Ah, well all of that which is taught in schools (certainly in the UK anyway) is in agreement with the consensus of the scientific community so there is no question about believing it or not. However if he wants to understand the whys and wherefores he will have to study at a higher level or risk reading one of those biased books!
this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.
i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.
and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".
"Just checked out the book. A big fat no. I am not buying him anything by Dawkins. He is a fundamentalist and he writes with bias. I don't care if my son believes in God or not. I just want him to know evolution is a fact." - KateWild
Dawkins is a scientist with the experience and qualifications to talk about the subject you are interested in. This book isn't The God Delusion, it's a science book written for the layperson; written many years before he ventured into the God debate.
However if you don't want that then this bbc website designed to help high school revision should help.
in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.
and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.
Ruby456 -
What branch of Islam does not call for death for apostates, homosexuals, adulterers or does not call for the subjugation of Christians or Jews under the Dhimmi doctrine or the death or conversion of everyone else ... etc?
It's doesn't matter what a Muslim does, it matters what he or she is identifying with.
in behalf of the horrific events of saturday night, i just wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that islam is a religion of peace.
it doesn’t matter that the quran explicitly says that homosexuals should be stoned to death (7:84) - it’s still a religion of peace.
and it doesn’t matter that the scriptures say that all gay men should be killed (sunan 1:152) - islam doesn’t in anyway condone violence.. it doesn’t matter that every mainstream imam calls homosexuality a sin "worse the adultery" - it’s not a religion of bigotry.. it doesn’t matter that 61% of muslims in the uk think gay acts should be made illegal - islam has nothing against the gay community.. it doesn’t matter that countries with sharia law actively persecute the lgbt community - islam is all about peace and love.
Islamophobia - The term carted out to silence any discussion about the problems of Islam by those that cannot justify their political or religious position using the types of arguments commonly employed when discussing other aspects of our cultural identity.
It is like the term "racist" which has become so overused by people trying to tarnish their opponent instead of dealing with the arguments made against them. It has come to the point where that term is becoming meaningless due to its (incorrect) overuse.
in 1966 microbiologist kwang jeon was studying a population of amoebae in the lab when they began to die off unexpectedly.
he noticed thousands of tiny dots in the cytoplasm of each individual which turned out to be a bacterial infection.
most of them weakened and died but surprisingly a small percentage recovered and seemed to be back to normal.
Vidqun -
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB200_1.html
A simple explanation why your latest post's conclusions are wrong. Please read it!
Your position is wrong because there are pathways for the flagellum to evolve. We don't need to know how it did it exactly... You, on the other hand have to show there isn't a path way which would involve you knowing everything so as you could be sure that you haven't missed anything; yes that's impossible which is why arguments such as the one you are making are wrong.
in 1966 microbiologist kwang jeon was studying a population of amoebae in the lab when they began to die off unexpectedly.
he noticed thousands of tiny dots in the cytoplasm of each individual which turned out to be a bacterial infection.
most of them weakened and died but surprisingly a small percentage recovered and seemed to be back to normal.
Vidqun
Making up numbers and then using those numbers as a reason why something is not and something else is is not scientific; it's not relevant to anything.
When you read these books by creationists you need to understand that those numbers are placed there only for the credulous. They have no bearing on reality and do not add to our understanding of the likelihood of something occurring in nature. Why? Because they do not take into account that certain things in biology happen automatically (even if there is a myriad of other possible combinations the overwhelming majority of those possibilities will never occur because the energy transfer that occurs when things join up or separate is not compatible for that overwhelming majority) or that events take place in numerous places simultaneously, continuously 24/7 for millennia.
As usual, creationists are not adding to our knowledge by producing science based evidence, instead they make up nonsense numbers and then assert that these numbers prove evolution cannot happen. It's utter nonsense and useful only for those people who want to hold on to preconceptions they have about how things, in their world, should work...
in 1966 microbiologist kwang jeon was studying a population of amoebae in the lab when they began to die off unexpectedly.
he noticed thousands of tiny dots in the cytoplasm of each individual which turned out to be a bacterial infection.
most of them weakened and died but surprisingly a small percentage recovered and seemed to be back to normal.
Excellent continuation to your series again Cofty.
It's worth us all remembering just how many science hours have gone into learning the knowledge that these few paragraphs highlight. How many scientists have devoted their lives to researching these topics so we can understand our world just that little bit better? The efforts that go into understanding even the "simplest" things is testament to the character of these scientists who often earn relatively little when compared to other jobs requiring similar expertise and commitment. It is all too easy to forget all that when presented with a summary of knowledge, especially if you have had no experience or higher learning in those fields. So let's not forget!
this month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
"if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" - out of date teacher/sister
ultraviolet circularly polarized light...
It's amazing what research can do as opposed to reading 1 book...
i've been awake now for a good while.
about a year.
in that year i've done a lot of soul searching and thinking about god and religion etc.... as i'm sure most all of us have who've left this cult.
"Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can be more content with the present?" - All or nothing
Socialise as much as you can. You will come into contact with a lot of ideas as well as learn about interests and this will broaden your personal horizons giving you a base from which to plan your own life. In other words you may well find yourself by engaging with others and drawing on their life experiences.
