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  Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

  by Cold Steel in

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  i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

  haunted books?

  ouija boards?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Heathen -

  Are you capable of being rational? Or do you simply prefer the comfort of the echo chamber?
  
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  Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

  haunted books?

  ouija boards?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "A rigid mind like yours is bound to shatter..."

  I thought most of us left behind that kind of thinking when we left the JWs... You are the one that seems to be hell bent on insisting something is true regardless of the lack of evidence to support these claims. So then, who is the one with the rigid mind?

  Show me some proof or supply some theory as to what these things are that we can test and let's go from there.
  
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  Anyone Heard Any Good DEMON Stories Lately?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i saw this recent account on youtube recently and wondered if anyone had any good spook stories?

  haunted books?

  ouija boards?

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "people will not tell true encounters for being made fun of "

  Of course they will, regardless of the consequences; hence your preceding statement:

  "these threads are always attacked by non believers with nothing better to do"
  

  If people didn't tell these tales then the following "making fun" part simply cannot happen! Anyway...

  Ghosts aren't real and poltergeists are not throwing stuff around rooms. Minds play tricks and people lie. It is as simple as that, even if it is entertaining to read...
  

  
  
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  "A new species combining wolves, coyotes and dogs is evolving before scientists’ eyes in the eastern United States."

  by unsure in

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  "a new species combining wolves, coyotes and dogs is evolving before scientists’ eyes in the eastern united states.".

  http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/a-new-species-is-evolving-right-before-our-eyes-an-ultra-successful-mix-of-wolves-coyotes-and-dogs/.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  "A new species combining wolves, coyotes and dogs is evolving before scientists"

  It's still the same kind of animal therefore god...
  
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  Outcome - Banned in Russia - Final

  by OrphanCrow in

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  i just watched the live feed from the russian court room and followed the updates on the russian exjw forum.. just waiting for confirmation from other sources...but, it looks like the final (and expected) result is:.

  banned.

  which means that the wts property in russia now belongs to the russian state..

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  It is good. Some may think that this is against someone's freedom to believe as they wish or see it as a step backwards for Russia. However this isn't about the individual. This is about the organization known as the Jehovah's witnesses and this organization is guilty of destroying families and encouraging ignorance that causes people to die. I would like to see the WBTS banned everywhere for the sake of innocent children and adults who know no better.
  
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  Sudden General Election in UK to be held June 8th 2017

  by freddo in

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  theresa may the british p.m. has called for an election.. the house of commons has to vote tomorrow and have a two-thirds majority to agree and the main opposition parties want it to happen too so it looks pretty certain to go ahead..

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  I think there is a legitimate argument for allowing another Scottish referendum.

  I also think that people in power are worried how history will remember them so by going to the polls with a clear manifesto this will allow the victor (T. May... unless something strange happens again) to claim they were doing the will of the people regardless of outcome in future years; the pledges and promises given during the referendum for EU membership were not given by the current PM...

  I also think that people should only become eligible to vote after working for 2 years i.e. get a bit of worldly experience outside of "safe spaces" and other cossetting influences.
  
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  22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the full story, as told in the uk guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada.

  and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.. but note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years.

  and from the christian/jw perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Perry –
  

  Summary: You initially were told that counting layers is not how age is worked out. You get butt hurt and link to something that shows annual layering. I then explain what annual layering is and you get butt hurt and pretend that the two things are the same therefore I am contradicting myself!

  I see you still do not understand what is going on here. Therefore:
  

  “When asked, “Bob, when you dug that airplane out, how many layers of ice were there above the airplane?”, He said, “Oh, there were many hundreds of layers of ice above the airplane.”
  

  The facts are that in only 48 years, these planes were already under 260 feet of ice, and under "many hundreds" of ice layers.” – Perry

  This led to my initial response to your lack of understanding as to what a layer is. Your own post speaks for itself; in only 48 years there were many hundreds of layers above the planes. This should encourage you to realise that more than 1 layer can be lain down in a year. Therefore counting layers is not how you work out ages. Would you agree?

  An annual layer, on the other hand, are 1 or more layers that have been lain down over the course of a year; hence the term annual layer. Do you know how those boundaries are worked out?

  The rest of your latest post is a rambling of ignorance.

  The question you need to ask and seek an answer for is this:
  

  How do you work out where 1 year stops and the next year starts when using ice cores?
  

  Pasting silly pictures does nothing to enhance your argument other than to further demonstrate you do not understand what it is you are talking about e.g.
  

  “We date the ice layers by the carbon 14 and we calibrate the carbon 14 by the ice layers” – Perry

  Silly... Do you understand what relative dating is and what absolute dating is?
  

  Oh, and ice cores are only like tree rings insofar as an analogy... Perhaps that is where your confusion is arising.
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  22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the full story, as told in the uk guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada.

  and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.. but note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years.

  and from the christian/jw perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Perry -

  Your own link above makes it clear what ANNUAL layers are. Just look at the pictures and you will see many bands (layers) yet the annual count is far less. From a brief look at that poor resolution picture I can make out approximately 30 layers and yet the year count is 12. Why is that Perry? Do you understand what it is I (and the article) am telling you?

  Your article also said this just after your highlight:

  "Unfortunately, annual layers become harder to see deeper in the ice core."

  Given that, how do you think age is calculated? Well, read the rest of your link for a clue!
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  22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the full story, as told in the uk guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada.

  and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.. but note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years.

  and from the christian/jw perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Perry, as usual, has ignored previous replies and continues ahead with this nonsense.

  Perry, if you were to learn about ice core dating you would know that answer to that question already. That you are asking such basic questions should give you pause to consider just how advanced your knowledge is of this subject.

  There may be many layers in 1 year in areas such as where those planes are buried. However counting layers is not how age is calculated. The area that these planes are buried in are areas of high annual snow fall and is on an active glacier. For many reasons ice cores are not taken at locations such as that. Ice cores are taken from areas of stability and low snow fall such as inland areas.

  One more time for emphasis...: Ice cores are NOT taken from active glaciers such as the one you present, areas of high annual snow fall will show wider layering for a given time period, measured depth is NOT an indicator of time passed, a layer is not an indicator that 1 year has passed; in short you are presenting a straw man and you do not possess enough knowledge to realise this.
  

  My previous reply addressed your key issues.

  What you need, Perry, is an understanding of this subject.
  
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  22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the full story, as told in the uk guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada.

  and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.. but note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years.

  and from the christian/jw perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself

  Perry, as usual, is getting his knowledge from creationist websites. If Perry were to learn about ice core dating he would understand that dating takes place in stable ice fields and not on active glaciers, such as the active glacier covering the part of Greenland that these planes are buried in. He might also come to understand that ice core dates are verified by comparison with other dating methods. He might also come to understand that compaction takes place, therefore suggesting an "average" layer and using that to come to a numerical figure is nonsense. He might also come to understand that counting "layers" is not how ice core age is worked out.

  He might come to learn these things but he won't by repeating creationist propaganda.