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The cancer has changed my wife

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we found out that she has pancreatic cancer that has spread to the liver and blood vessels.

she opted for chemo.

although we have good insurance, we still have to pay quite a bit towards the $17000.00 bill every three weeks for treatment.

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Thanks to you all for your kind words and advice.

Yes Metatron Sea Weed is one of the things she is taking along with the other cancer herbs. The old man here in weiser took this herbal treatment for a skin cancer about the size of 1/2 of a small egg and it fell off. Then when he had a hip replaced the drs. found bone cancer and the same treatment in tablets were used and they say the cancer has not returned.

If only I could completely believe him. There are so many sham treatments one never knows.

jgnat I hope I have the strength your dad has. I already have the pocket calendar and the note pad.

Yes Merry my wife would just love to see you are praying for her. She is much more religious related than I am. Although I do not trust the bible and doubt its description of God, I do think that there just might be a creator of us and the universe.

Thanks Greendawn and Serendipity sp? for your kind response.

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The cancer has changed my wife

by outoftheorg in

we found out that she has pancreatic cancer that has spread to the liver and blood vessels.

she opted for chemo.

although we have good insurance, we still have to pay quite a bit towards the $17000.00 bill every three weeks for treatment.

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I don't know what happened but I had to go back and use "edit" to put the story in.

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The cancer has changed my wife

by outoftheorg in

we found out that she has pancreatic cancer that has spread to the liver and blood vessels.

she opted for chemo.

although we have good insurance, we still have to pay quite a bit towards the $17000.00 bill every three weeks for treatment.

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We found out that she has pancreatic cancer that has spread to the liver and blood vessels. She opted for chemo. Although we have good insurance, we still have to pay quite a bit towards the $17000.00 bill every three weeks for treatment. At the begining the Drs' also found that one of the ducts from the gall bladder was closed and they installed a stint. Things looked better for a while and then again the stint became clogged and had to be removed and replaced. At this point the chemo had been so devastating that we thought it may kill her. The dr' that replaced the stint wanted to talk to us and he pointed out that the Oncologist "cancer specialist" is always looking only at trying to extend ones life. He suggested that Donna think about the quality of her life as it is now and that it will stay that way as long as the chemo is used, Donna and I had already had similar thoughts. But he pointed our what we had been unwilling to address and that is that her expected life time is to be looked at with months and not years. So Donna decided to drop the chemo and life her life out with the use of pain releavers. There is another treatment that was brought to our attention by an old man in our town had used and the doctors are telling him that his cancer no longer shows on the cat scans. It is a rather drastic herbal treatment that also disturbs the various organs in the body but not in such a severe manner. Donna has lost about 70 lbs. and the stress is showing in many ways. The stress is almost more than I can handle. It seems that the stress comes in many forms and directions. An example is when she told her younger son about the cancer, his response among others was "what is going to happen to this place" the house we own. Then her three adult sons were disturbed that I have more children than Donna does and they might get more than they would. Not exactly what we need to hear and deal with at this point. We also have some renters who can't pay their rent and we are having to go to court to get them to move out. Idaho has some wierd laws that allow the renters more rights than the owners in some situations. Both of us seem to be easier angered and we sometimes have to apologize to each other. I really don't have any idea about what I will do when she passes away. I feel totally lost and confused about the present and the future. I notice the stress seems to be causing me to forget things,I expect some of this is due to age, 70 yrs. Is when many of us start to begin loosing our faculties. We had so many things planned when Donna retires two years from now and now it looks like most of these plans will not see completion. I am going to see my Dr. about dealing with the stress and if any of you have a sure thing ha ha let me know OK? Outoftheorg of the lost ones

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E Mail from public broadcasting system

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i just received an e mail from pbs that refers to my e mail to them regarding the up coming display of .

knocking.

the program we feel is to promote the wbts.. in their e mail they state that this program has not been submitted to them or reviewed by pbs.. any one here receive responses like this from pbs??.

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I thought it was interesting also.

I am surprised at the lack of response to this post.

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E Mail from public broadcasting system

by outoftheorg in

i just received an e mail from pbs that refers to my e mail to them regarding the up coming display of .

knocking.

the program we feel is to promote the wbts.. in their e mail they state that this program has not been submitted to them or reviewed by pbs.. any one here receive responses like this from pbs??.

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I just received an E Mail from PBS that refers to my E Mail to them regarding the up coming display of

KNOCKING. The program we feel is to promote the WBTS.

In their E Mail they state that this program has not been submitted to them or reviewed by PBS.

Any one here receive responses like this from PBS??

To me this seems the time to send in E Mails to PBS if you have not yet.

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Why do "Ultra Christian" people, sound so fake?

by free2beme in

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now before i offend everyone who labels themselves christian.

well, in my time as a christian.

a fake christian!

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In business dealings, I learned at an early age that if a person felt they had to tell me they were a christian and so I should trust them, that they were not to be trusted.

A ""true"" christian does not feel that urge but they are almost always helpful and honest.

I am helpful and honest and I am not a christian. I may be an agnostic, I am not sure.

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The Day two JW kids murdered their parents.

by LDH in

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for those of you who are unfamiliar with the story, which is ten years old now.

the freeman brothers of allentown pennsylvania lashed out against their strict upbringing by killing their loyal jw parents and even their younger brother.. the story made national headlines because these two had tattoos on their foreheads.

"berzerker" and "sieg heil.".

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Yeah Beep it kinda reminds of the pictures in the watchtower and all those men and women and even children and babies killed at Armageddon and how enthralled the jw's are with all these deaths.

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PRISON

by uninformed in

did any of you go to prison either in the vietnam era, or earlier?.

i was in severel prisons:.

mount lemon, tucson.

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I was 7 yrs, old when my 19 year old brother was arrested and sentenced to 5 years in ww2.

I can recall my mom trying to justify his not accepting any alternative service to my father. My father was a veteran. I remember being frightened at the arguing and seeing my brother and father crying and my mother being glad and even a bit happy at his choice.

Does this sort of thing have lasting effects on those who chose prison?

About 13 yrs ago when I was df'd for "fits of rage" of all things. My brother began to shun me and I tried to talk him out of it.

His only main reasoning was " I SPENT THREE YEARS IN PRISON" I must obey my God.

At the time it sounded stupid and pathetic to me.

Today it sounds like some one so terribly treated that he has begun to worship the dememted cult masters as idols, the very ones that caused him such pain and sorrow. Reminds me of the Stockholm mental state, where you worship your captors.

Today I am 70 and he is in his 80's and he still will not speak to me.

What horrible treatment and grief's this cult has done to young people and is still doing it.

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Many thanks to Simon!

by Elsewhere in

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if it were not for all of the very hard work that simon does behind the scenes to keep this forum up, much of the other work others are doing could never have happened.. this site serves as an excellent central location for us all to communicate and exchange thoughts and ideas about how to expose the evil ways of the wts.. simon, thank you very much!

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Yes Simon deserves a couple of HIP HIP HOORAYS, for all he has done.

By the way, where the hell have ya been?? Haven't seen much of ya lately??

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Disfellowshipped and lonely

by ryry in

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i was disfellowshipped in 2003. systematically my family stopped talking to me.

i am only 22 years old and i feel a big void in my life.

what can i do to feel better?

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WELCOME WELCOME WELCOME

There isn't much more I can say, that hasn't already been said.

One thing I found interesting on this forum, is that if you have a question on some subject any subject there will be a few here that know what you are talking about and have good answers.

Anything, love-children-medical-electronic-history-you name it and there is usually a good answer.

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