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  I need advice

  by poodlehead in

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  i have a 14 year old son who lives with his father a jw and his step mother jw who grew up as a witness.

  my ex-husband is fairly well off but his father and family have done very well for them selves.

  the way they pass money down is into the next of kin and when that person dies the next down the line gets it.

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  Based on what you wrote, I would go direct to the grandfather and explain this to him and then drop the subject with the child or the father.

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  PS If the grandfather will accept this a trust is more flexable and protective than a will.
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  History Channel. The exodus

  by agapa37 in

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  did anyone watch it tonight?

  i thought it was interesting.

  there idea about the ark of the covenant was off from what the bibles says though.

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  I really enjoyed the History channel about the Santorini volcano's huge explosion and the following earthquakes and tsunami's and the fall out that caused darkness in day time and it explained how these could cause the plague and the other things in the bible.

  Now the jw's and other religions will all be saying. WELL YOU KNOW THAT GOD CAUSED ALL THAT TO HAPPEN.

  Ya can't change a devoted believer.

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  Elders son is GAY!!!

  by Wordly Andre in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  just looked up my old high school in classmates.com, i saw this dude who was a couple years older than me, didn't really know him but i knew his brother (who left the org the same time i did), his dad kicked him out of the house and he lived in his car, they are sons of one of the elders (assholes) who df'd my dad.

  the good son was a good little jw that did everything a jw father (elder) would want his son to do, on his bio on classmates.com he says that he is gay, ha ha ha ha.

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  Jonno

  It must be different with different families.

  You got that right.

  It goes from OK we still love you to ( I wish I could kill you.)

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  How do you say good-bye?

  by hambeak in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  my doctor called me today and told me i have a very aggressive case of colon cancer.

  i go back on monday for more tests and maybe surgery and chemo i don't know.

  my partner is a total mess over this and he is all i have.

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  Sorry to hear this Hambeak. Cancer of the colon is one cancer that usually is taken care of with a good amount of success.

  It usually involves surgery and has a high recovery rate. Don't give up now, because you will need to go through a few tough times either way if it is terminal or not.

  This sort of thing is very frightening no matter who you are or what you have had to go through before.

  Being a total mess in a situation like this is not unusual. It is a normal response to an incident that we would all be upset and confused and angry.

  Life is difficult no matter who we are or what we face. No one gets a free ride in life. I guess just hang in there and support each other, do some plans for the future to handle this illness and the results what ever they may be.

  If there are some trips or any other thing that you planned, try to do them now and enjoy what you can do today and consider the use of chemo and or you'r quality of life with or without chemo and the expected life span if this a terminal illness.

  You may decide to omit the chemo and enjoy the time you have left. Or take the chemo and hope for the best.

  Take care of each other and show your love by actions. This will be a difficult thing to go through.

  I know. I just went through it with my wife.

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  Anyone else ever gone through feelings such as these?

  by WildHorses in

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  2. friends

  last sunday was the first time i went through this but it has since happened a few more times.

  when i woke up last sunday morning, i had this feeling that i was going to die.

  i don't know why i felt this way but i couldn't shake the feeling of dread.

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  It does sound like panick attacts. Does this feeling that you may die start when you are in the panic attack or is it a lingering feeling before this started or does it linger after.

  The attack is enough to scare one into feeling they may be dieing at that instant. But I would think the lingering feeling of dying if it has been around for some time is another issue. Or maybe the base cause of the attacks.

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  What my week brought me

  by Pistoff in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i don't usuallypost about personal issues; i am still fading; besides, i was raised in a family that would say we were doing well even if our house was burning down.. for the last month i have been stressing about seeing family from the west coast; my brother, out for many years but now back in and gung ho, is bringing his son and daughter out.

  family reunion, of sorts.

  i wanted to host, but then i realized that my disfellowshipped daughter would not be included.

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  Sorry things are not going good for you. I recently had to take care of the funeral for my wife. I was amazed at how easily some family members would get angry.

  It was as if they were looking for the opportunity to be a prick and when they did they were A PRICK.

  I asked the funeral director if this is how it is with most funerals. He said almost all. Some times they take their anger out on him.

  So don't expect too much kindness and caring.

  If you want your daughter with you, take her. Do what ever it is that makes you feel good about YOURSELF and just ignore the trouble makers.

  A funeral is for the survivors more than for the deceased. Your brother is at rest now and will not feel what is going on. Take care of your needs and do what you wish to do, that makes you feel contented and that your brother would have admired. Stick close to those who treat you well and ignore the others.

  If the grief and stress is too strong or lingers too long, DO see a counselor or psych for some help.

  I needed it and you may also. Set up a day by day schedule and follow it until the grief and stress slows down.

  Hoping all the best for you and family.

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  panda's husband died...

  by Country Girl in

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  2. friends

  our dear friend, panda's, husband died of a heart attack a night ago.

  she is a sweetheart, and she didn't want to tell us because she was thinking that it would make people feel bad.

  she is feeling very bad, that's forsure.

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  So Sorry Panda. What you are going through now will be very difficult.

  But you will survive and it will take some time. There are many here who love you and will help.

  If there is anything we or I can do to help you let us know.

  Stay in contact with us and you can cry or curse or just vent to let your feelings go.

  I am going through the same thing, so I can tell you that you will make it. It will be hard at times but you will survive.

  Best wishes to you and family.

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  Agnostic or Atheist?

  by done4good in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for all of you non-religionists out there: do you consider yourself an agnostic or atheist, and why?

  it seems many ex-jws that "loose the faith" have a tendency to go straight for atheism.

  i myself, would consider myself more of an agnostic, as i believe we have no real way of knowing if there is a god one way or the other, and it tends to seem just as extreme to me, to insist that there is not one.

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  I am pretty much with JT and Poppers at this time in my life. I didn't get there by reading a book I just started thinking about "what if there is no singular God with a personality" .

  What if there was just some energy field that is in all the universe?

  I have a headache right now. So can we put this off for a while?

  This worked for my wife.

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  I've been offline for a while....just catching up here....How's everybody?

  by Frannie Banannie in

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  2. friends

  i moved back to beaumont to stay with crabby pants.

  was in dialup hell for a while because the computer was attached to cp's phone line.

  he couldn't stand for me to be online for any length of time because it might have interferred with him getting to scream, cuss and roar at telemarketers and slam the phone down over and over hard enough to break it.

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  Hey Frannie I just thought about something. (take notice of this as it seldom happens)."a thought."

  If I ever get really sick and old, I will get you to come and take care of me.

  I bet you would be a hoot and a holler most of the time and keep me laughing.

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  My Whole Life Seems Like A Fabrication

  by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm brand new here but have been reading for months.

  my sincere thanks to those who have come before me, shown me that i'm not alone, that i'm not nuts and not a loser.

  i was raised a hoho, pioneered my best years away, i married a nice brother, my dad was an elder, one or of both my parents have been pioneers for 30 years+, we hosted bethel speakers and gb members in our home, my parents have had numerous circuit ass.

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  Lost One there are quite a few here who have lost their families due to the wbts hateful dominating behavior.

  I am one of them. A good example of this loss is the recent death of my wife. Some of my children drove almost 500 miles to be with me during the loss. The rest sent flowers and cards and called me.

  One child still in the jw mess living only 70 miles from me didn't come or contact me in any way.

  If you feel the need to vent your feelings here, don't worry, we are used to it and it can be helpful.

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