DOES THIS COUNT AS A SIN???
I WAS COUNSELED IN PUBLIC FOR REFERING TO THE ONE HUNDRED FORTY FOUR THOUSAND.
I WAS TOLD IT WAS ALWAYS TO BE STATED AS ONE HUNDRED " AND " FORTY FOUR THOUSAND.
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here's one to start the ball rolling.
if you are not feeling well, have a headache, a backache, whatever but you would go to work but didn't go to a meeting or in "field service"---then you "sinned" against jehovah.....any others?
DOES THIS COUNT AS A SIN???
I WAS COUNSELED IN PUBLIC FOR REFERING TO THE ONE HUNDRED FORTY FOUR THOUSAND.
I WAS TOLD IT WAS ALWAYS TO BE STATED AS ONE HUNDRED " AND " FORTY FOUR THOUSAND.
Outoftheorg
i have just joined this forum today.
am looking forward to getting to know some of you.
is anyone else from nz?
HI!!
UUHH YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND TALK TO US.
WE'RE CIVILIZED.
YOU DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. TYPE THAT IS.
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http://www.amarillo.com/stories/111704/new_jailed.shtml
web-posted wednesday, november 17, 2004 .
couple jailed after encounter interrupted .
Well Schizm, they would not be allowed to use a camera in the situation as it was described.
But where there are possible injuries and especially when you cut the roof off some ones car, you better have some pictures to justify your actions.
At least that is how it was then. This is today and it may be different.
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http://www.amarillo.com/stories/111704/new_jailed.shtml
web-posted wednesday, november 17, 2004 .
couple jailed after encounter interrupted .
One time a long time ago in SanDiego I was on patrol and heard on the radio a very similar situation.
It was in an area I had no business in or I would have went there code 3.
It seems this young couple decided around 3 or 4 in the morning, that having sex in his new sports car was a sexy thing to do.
Around 5 in the morning a civilian called in a "couple in distress" to dispatch.
The officers found this guy on top of the love of his life and her lodged under him and unable to get out.
He had done something to his back, during his enthusiasm and was in great pain.
The new sports car was too small for such activity and both were trapped. The emergency medical people were afraid to move him for fear of further injury.
The fire dept. arrived and after much consultation they cut the roof off of his new sports car.
This enabled a rescue.. This went all over the different state, city, county radio systems all night.
I would have loved to have been there with a camera.
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deepest sympathy to margaret's husband, family and friends.
the world has lost one of it's most precious and beautiful citizens.
may she rest in peace..
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its safe to assume that many jw's come on here and just read posts.
in fact i did it for several months before posting anything.
i have seen many, many helpful posts giving encouragement, etc.
THE WBTS AND ITS LEADERS ARE BY DEFINITION, CALLOUS, COLD HEARTED AND SELF RIGHTEOUS.
THEIR PUBLICATIONS REFLECT THIS IN THEIR OPINIONS OF THE WORLD OUTSIDE THE ORGANIZATION.
SUCH AS PREDICTING THAT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING BABIES AND CHILDREN ARE TO BE KILLED BY THEIR GOD AT ARMAGEDDON.
AGAIN IN THEIR HATEFULL USE OF SHUNNING "TO THE EXTREME" THAT BREAKS UP MARRIAGES AND FAMILIES. THEY USE THIS EVEN IF THE ONLY CHARGE IS DUE TO SOMEONE ONLY SAYING " I DON'T AGREE " WITH THIS TEACHING.
THIS TEACHES AND TRAINS THEIR MEMBERS TO ADOPT THE SAME ATTITUDE.
THIS IS WHY THE JW'S ARE SO BITTER AND HATEFULL IN THEIR RELATIONS WITH FAMILY THAT HAVE BEEN DF'D.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE THIS WAY FOR A TIME AFTER THEIR ESCAPE OR EVEN FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE, WHAT ELSE DO YOU EXPECT???
ITS A SAD, SAD SITUATION AND IT IS CAUSING OR AT LEAST EXACERBATES THE ATTITUDES AND FEELINGS OF THE ESCAPEES.
AS THEY GROW THEY OVERCOME THIS INSTALLED TRAIT AND TREAT OTHERS AS THEY OUGHT.
BUT IF CONFRONTED BY THIS HATEFULL RELIGION AND ITS BELIEFS IT WILL NATURALLY TRIGGER THEIR ANGER. SOME CAN CONTROL IT AND SOME CAN NOT.
THIS IS HOW HUMANS ARE.
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i fade over 20 years ago.
moved 800 miles from my jw family.
i see them about once a year.
Thanks Dansk.
It is nice to see you posting here. I hope all works out well for you and your family.
You are in the hearts and minds of a lot of folks on this forum.
Best wishes to ya.
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this is an interesting read.
recently, in my same small city, chiliwack, b.c.
a court case was thrown out re a woman who died from complications during birth.
If I read the correct news article, this man got hepatitus from the transfusion, Unfortunatly this will be used by the jw's to bolster their claims about transfusions.
I am curious though, since at least here in the US all blood donated is tested for hepatitus and other ailments. If it shows up the blood is not used and the donor is notified.
The poor guy ended up worse for the wear.
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i fade over 20 years ago.
moved 800 miles from my jw family.
i see them about once a year.
Well let's start with this. EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DESCRIBED RE.YOUR SON also happens in the world of jehovas witnesses.
I have a daughter "raised as a jw" who is bipolar. I have a son also "raised as a jw" who has gotten a young girl pregnant. He also smokes, uses drugs, spent time in jail.
Since you describe your parents behaviour as happening for several years, it is doubtful they will ever change, in how they deal with you.
It is your life. If you are tired of doing the dance to please them, let the light shine into your life and be the real you.
Stop the worry, fear, and self condemnation and let the whole thing work its way to a conclusion.
Just my opinion.
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deepest sympathy to margaret's husband, family and friends.
the world has lost one of it's most precious and beautiful citizens.
may she rest in peace..
A kind loving wonderful person. Spent most of her life helping people in any way she could.
Then the fundamental islamists she was helping, use her as a captive under threat of death to try to influence their jihad, terrorize her and then kill her.
Such insane raging hatred caused by yet another religion.
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