Posts by Indoubtbigtime

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Lawsuit: I said GB member Barr that my Bethelite stepfather abused me; he did nothing

by Corney in

here's an excerpt from the recent lawsuit deborah hines v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york et al (paragraphs 158-180), one of 29 known cases brought against the org pursuant to the ny child victims act.

what should be kept in mind is that gerrit lösch apparently worked in europe (the austrian branch and eastern europe) at the time when the abuse was allegedly reported to him (not a gb member then).. plaintiff was raised a member of the jehovah’s witnesses.

she primarily attended meetings at various congregations in arizona.

Indoubtbigtime

The entire thing sounds made up to me

we are supposed to believe she was old enough to be a pioneer but still living with her alcoholism mum and step father in Bethel?????

And she was threatened with being taken if being a pioneer and she just had to go back in the room with them? Come on, nobody would believe this. Why would she still want to pioneer and if she was old enough to pioneer why would she continue to go back to that room? She would run out of the room crying and tell someone

I also find it hard to believe While at Bethel, Plaintiff was assigned to work various jobs, including, assisting with video production, working in the laundry facility, and as an elevator operator.

I used to be a Bethelite and I know that this just would not happen, nobody under 19 could work in Bethel,

thete are more holes in this story than in Swiss cheese

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it’s all in person and only fully vaxed can go

by Indoubtbigtime in

2023 will see a big push to get rank and file back to in person meetings and ministry.

they have opened a can of worms with zoom but what they really want is only in extreme illnesses cases can someone use zoom .

the only problem is they want everyone fully vaccinated which means if you didn’t go for your latest booster in the last several months then you are no longer fully vaccinated and just the same as someone who never accepted any shots right from the start.

Indoubtbigtime

2023 will see a big push to get rank and file back to in person meetings and ministry. They have opened a can of worms with zoom but what they really want is only in extreme illnesses cases can someone use zoom

the only problem is they want everyone fully vaccinated which means if you didn’t go for your latest booster in the last several months then you are no longer fully vaccinated and just the same as someone who never accepted any shots right from the start.

To start with it’s only the schools or volunteer positions at the branches or LDC or HLC, or if you are involved with any photo or video production in any way, or if your involvement with assembly or convention in any way you have to show you have had your latest boosters

My coordinator in my congregation has started asking all the Elders and servants to make sure they are fully vaccinated before the upcoming schools.

apparently there is an elders school coming up, and then we have the kingdom ministry school which I will hopefully be going to as I am an MS

Im going to try to get out of answering I don’t want to lie but I have not kept up with latest boosters as now it seems they are not safe and effective and I don’t want to take the risk of these experimental treatments

what shall I do if I’m pushed to show evidence I have had recent boosters?

there is no video conferencing at all it’s all in person and only fully vaxed can go

all pioneer school and kingdom ministry school need to show you have had your latest booster

even single sisters and young ones can go as long as they remain fully vaxed

so it’s a real problem to get everyone keep taking their boosters and getting them all back to in person

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Indoubtbigtime

Many times in these cases the unfaithful man promised to be faithful from now just to stop the divorce please give me one more chance etc etc

I can see him being caught again in the future, the truth always comes out in the end

my predicting is he will he kicked out of that family home and move back to the UK

its actually amazing her parents let him stay but I can see that is why he needed an external place to make his videos

do you think that congregation gives the parents a hard time? Do you think the CO and the district overseer talk about what can be done about this apostate living with active publishers?

maybe the in laws are not strong in the truth but the local body of elders will be talking to the branch office and even world headquarters for years now about what can be done

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Seems to be a census on vaccine status

by Indoubtbigtime in

the upcoming km school for all elders and servants is going to be in person only with no provision for video conferencing.. only fully vaccinated may attend.

meaning if you missed your last booster you are no longer fully vaccinated.. every coordinator of body of elders has to ask every single ms and elder if they have kept up with all their boosters and are fully vaccinated or they can’t attend.. this seems to be a census the gb want to know how many are keeping up with booster shots.

Indoubtbigtime

My coordinator in my congregation has started asking all the Elders and servants to make sure they are fully vaccinated before the upcoming schools.

apparently there is an elders school coming up, and then we have the kingdom ministry school which I will hopefully be going to as I am an MS

there is no video conferencing at all it’s all in person and only fully vaxed can go

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Just courius, some questions about the past

by Gorb in

jw
friends

curious.

time goes by so fast.

who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?

Indoubtbigtime

There is actually a lot of evidence of the biblical flood about 4.5k years ago

and there is evidence that many ancient structures and civilisations were pre flood by over 1000years

as we know many underwater cities and evidence of civilisation

a lot of archaeological evidence of ancient civilisations over 5000 years ago this was the time Adam was still alive as he lived to 900+

the fallen angels and their hybrid offspring half demon half human were on earth for an unknown time before the flood maybe around 1000years, but probably only towards the end of that did they really get going with the wonders of the ancient world, then the flood destroyed most of it.

much of it remained like the many many pyramids around the world

check out the mysterious ancient Egyptian like stuff going on in the hidden parts of the Grand Canyon which experts think are over 5000yeats old

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getting round the territory slowly compared to before?

by Indoubtbigtime in

from what i know most territory maps in most congregations are being done much much slower than before.

my congregation is very very slow getting round the territory compared to before.

then pioneers will have hour requirement coming back in march but they are just not used to getting 3hrs a day 7 days a week.. many congregations used to get round all their territory every so often, now all congregations around north london where i am (yes i’m an ms involved with territory servants) are hardly getting around their territory at all.. of course letter writing was slow going but now back to first call hardly anyone is going out in person and those few that do don’t do that much.. even the elders who are supposed to take the lead don’t seem to come out much at all and when they do i know of more than one example of them only doing ten mins maybe a few houses then going for the obligatory coffee break.

Indoubtbigtime

FedUpJW7 hours ago

My dad had a good saying about the way people were driving a vehicle that may fit the way territories are being covered now. "If they were going any SLOWER they would be backing up

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There has been some huge changes in Europe I’m here in the UK and before COVID the GDPR changed everything

we used to be taught to write everything down and take a long time all the details.

then the GDPR changed all that and we were not allowed to write down even not at homes

so now I think you are supposed to try to remember all the not at homes, how many can someone remember? Probably only a few which is why most only do ten mins before the coffee break

if only ten mins is done at a time and then they try to remember the not at homes next time it’s going to take a long time to finish the map😂

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getting round the territory slowly compared to before?

by Indoubtbigtime in

from what i know most territory maps in most congregations are being done much much slower than before.

my congregation is very very slow getting round the territory compared to before.

then pioneers will have hour requirement coming back in march but they are just not used to getting 3hrs a day 7 days a week.. many congregations used to get round all their territory every so often, now all congregations around north london where i am (yes i’m an ms involved with territory servants) are hardly getting around their territory at all.. of course letter writing was slow going but now back to first call hardly anyone is going out in person and those few that do don’t do that much.. even the elders who are supposed to take the lead don’t seem to come out much at all and when they do i know of more than one example of them only doing ten mins maybe a few houses then going for the obligatory coffee break.

Indoubtbigtime

Biahian hour ago

Welcome, new poster! And, I’m sure you’re not imagining the decline. Hope you can leave soon

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thanks Biahi

I remember before COVID most judos did at least an hour and the pioneers were out a lot longer

now ten mins is a long time

After March I can see loads of pioneers struggling and the CO will look at congregations records and ask why are you getting round the maps so slowly

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Just courius, some questions about the past

by Gorb in

jw
friends

curious.

time goes by so fast.

who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?

Indoubtbigtime

waton26 minutes ago

They were all sturdy enough to be under ~10 000 meter of turbulent pressured water for 9 month ~4000 years ago

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yes many ancient structures are thought to be pre flood

the pyramids all around the world are said to be more the 4500 years old maybe even 5500 years old and maybe the nephalim and the giants were part of building these structures that are so advanced and line up with stars

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getting round the territory slowly compared to before?

by Indoubtbigtime in

from what i know most territory maps in most congregations are being done much much slower than before.

my congregation is very very slow getting round the territory compared to before.

then pioneers will have hour requirement coming back in march but they are just not used to getting 3hrs a day 7 days a week.. many congregations used to get round all their territory every so often, now all congregations around north london where i am (yes i’m an ms involved with territory servants) are hardly getting around their territory at all.. of course letter writing was slow going but now back to first call hardly anyone is going out in person and those few that do don’t do that much.. even the elders who are supposed to take the lead don’t seem to come out much at all and when they do i know of more than one example of them only doing ten mins maybe a few houses then going for the obligatory coffee break.

Indoubtbigtime

From what I know most territory maps in most congregations are being done much much slower than before

My congregation is very very slow getting round the territory compared to before. Then pioneers will have hour requirement coming back in March but they are just not used to getting 3hrs a day 7 days a week.

many congregations used to get round all their territory every so often, now all congregations around North London where I am (yes I’m an MS involved with territory servants) are hardly getting around their territory at all.

of course letter writing was slow going but now back to first call hardly anyone is going out in person and those few that do don’t do that much.

even the elders who are supposed to take the lead don’t seem to come out much at all and when they do I know of more than one example of them only doing ten mins maybe a few houses then going for the obligatory coffee break

the co will have to ask why are you so slow getting round the territory compared to before?

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Are the statistics out yet?

by slimboyfat in

isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?

or have they stopped publishing it?

did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?

Indoubtbigtime

From what I know most territory maps in most congregations are being done much much slower than before

many congregations used to get round all their territory every so often, now all congregations around North London where I am (yes I’m an MS involved with territory servants) are hardly getting around their territory at all.

of course letter writing was slow going but now back to first call hardly anyone is going out in person and those few that do don’t do that much