Posts by Indoubtbigtime

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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Just as the GBody can’t get out of the fact that to follow direction you had to be fully vaccinated, Lloyd has lost any trust if he threatens to bring legal proceedings against anyone.

The governing body say follow direction even if you disagree but those who chose not to follow direction over the harmful injections are very pleased they went against the GB now.

Any future direction the GB give will not have the same trust as it once did

and any future legal threats from Lloyd will be laughed at 😂

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back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

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The training and experience of being an appointed man is good for you.
I now think the best corse of action for me is to stay PIMO. I’m sitting on the fence if the Bible is just another book written by men or if it is Gods word. Either way it’s excellent to study and apply some of the better principles in there
the Jdub rank and file really are very good associations and I love all the gatherings and I even love the meetings for the good association.
Its better than going to the pub and cheaper
I also find it very interesting watching the collapse of old ideas and see what will happen to the 1914 and the gentile times have ended situation.
Myself I’m sure the universe was designed rather than chance evolution but I don’t think the JW GB have it right in fact I think they are wrong about many things
where does that leave me? Yes living a lie, pretending I believe the GB when I talk to other JWs
I wonder how many others there are like me who are just too afraid to be truthful.

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Elders are no longer teachers

by eyeslice in

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back in the day when i was a young witness lad, you very much got the impression that at least the training as theocratic teachers was good.. even the bible reading back then had a short introduction and conclusion.

you had to research and prepare your own ministry school talks and then perhaps you would graduate to a half of a 55 minute public talk.

then later if you were a book study conductor, you got to decide which scriptures to read and highlight.

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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

by EmptyInside in

i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

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Syme16 hours ago

If they ditch 1914, they'll have to ditch the Gentile Times prophecy, and the Last Days in general, but JWs without eschatology have no reason to exist. An alternative would be to just move End of Gentile Times to another date. They could for example accept the historical consensus about the fall of Jerusalem in 587 BC; that would give them 20 years of breathing time, and pass the hot potato to the next generation of GB; this sounds cynical enough for the GB to adopt. The problem, though, would be that every WT magazine has constantly fired against the historical date of 587 BC in favor of their baseless 607 BC. Changing that would be a huge flip-flop, but it wouldn't be news.

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Yes it will have to be a monumental U turn, but it is inevitable as we get further away from 1914. I don’t know how they will spin this exciting new light this time?

GB3.0 will have to try to delete old publications which is going to be impossible because the internet has copies of everything.

Some think it’s amazing that rank and file haven’t already lost trust in the GB for everything the have been wrong about.

The mass loss of trust and questioning the GB will definitely come when they announce new light on 1914 and the gentile times.

Loss of trust is really happening now with the tsunami of regret the world is facing about the harmful clot shots.

Many many Jdubs remember the old GB teaching not to get vaccines even upto the 1980s WTowers saying caution is needed when making a decision.

All those who were reluctant to get these shots were reminded to follow direction even if you don’t agree just trust the GB.

Now we know for a certainty these shots were not safe and effective just the opposite in fact.

Experts are predicting this tsunami of regret on top of the tsunami of excess deaths we are currently seeing and it’s just getting started.

1 in 2 people on earth had these substances injected into them but 99% of JDubs did.

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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

by EmptyInside in

i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

Indoubtbigtime

TonusOH19 hours ago

When they made the "generation" change in 1995, where they appeared to try to quietly drop it, that was when they had the opportunity to let it fade away. Once they revived it with the 'overlapping generations' explanation, they effectively doubled down. Now they are committed to it, like it or not. If they try to reverse it now, it would be a glaring admission that they were stumbling about in the dark the whole time.

It's possible that they felt they needed to address it somehow, and adding fifty or so years to the explanation lets it fade away without them having to ever talk about it again. But that just kicks the can down the road. They won't be able to handwave it in 2076, assuming they're still relevant at that time (or that they haven't shut down by then.

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Over the next few years or the next decade the 1914 teaching will be pushed over the edge.

Millions now living will never die got pushed over the edge and by 2014 everyone realises the governing body were wrong.

There will come a tipping point where it blatantly obvious the governing body were just as wrong about 1914 teachings as they were about millions now living will never die.

Just as they were wrong to give the direction to stay fully vaccinated

this is is the most damaging because we are always told to follow direction even if you don’t agree. Trust the GB and follow direction to keep getting these vaccines.

some on broadcasting and GB updates actually said they were reluctant to get the vaccines but then they saw the GB updates and they said “I will follow direction even if I don’t agree”

The GB are responsible for all those ones who damaged their health by getting these experimental medical injections

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

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I can see him moving to the UK this year as he will have a hard time dating in Croatia if he does speak the language

$40K from super chats alone, then all his other donations and then all his advertising revenue plus merch and book sales

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How Will They End 1914 Teaching?

by EmptyInside in

i'm sure this has been discussed, but 1914 has to go away.

instead of, the overlapping generation teaching, they should have just ditched 1914. .

they should have done that a long time ago with 1975. it's the last of the teachings in the charles taze russell era.. i'm thinking they just will stop talking about it, and it will be out of the mind of the rank and file loyal witnesses .

Indoubtbigtime

One WTower recently said Jesus three Satan out of heaven about 1914

other publications have said the recent term ‘about 1914’

when I was pioneering I used to say look how the world changed with the first WW but this was early in 1914

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New blood card system in March

by Indoubtbigtime in

there is going to be a hole new system of blood cards this march .

the congregation won’t hold any information as they did before from march it will be all put on the pub.

i think it’s to do with vaccines and they are worried now they got everyone vaxed and they want to distance themselves from medical responsibilities and say own personal decisions.

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I’m in doubt big time about the GBody since they pushed the vaccines on so many Jdubs who didn’t want them but only went and took them because they thought they should follow direction even if they don’t agree with it.

that’s why I doubt the GB right now

but pretty much everything else I love and fear Jehovah and he said to abstain from blood so I will be getting the new blood cards

i don’t want any vaccinated blood

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.

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Question everything

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Staying in physically for all the benefits

by Indoubtbigtime in

i wonder how many are like me staying pimo for the great association and gathering etc.

also find it very interesting having a front row seat watching the collapse of borg.. im not wasting any more time or money on anything i don’t want to do like preaching and mostly just go on zoom .

there is nothing i want to do that would be considered disfellowshiping sin, i’m married and want to live by bible principles but i have serious doubts that the gb were chosen by god and are his one and only spokesmen on earth.