growing up was ok being a jw or so i thought, i guess u accept life as it comes when yr a kid , anyhow i played guitar and my elder dad (who is currently df) would forbid me to learn hotel california or even if it came on the radio he would run and quickly turn it off , .
he explained he had heard a tape recording at work that explained that this song along with stairway to heaven and others had back masking on it and when played backwards would say stuff like "satan has his own congregation " or other stuff like that , now this was not a jw sanctioned audio talk just some other christian production .. none of dad's other peers felt the same and growing up it illustrated to me dad's propensity to be influenced and convinced about something seemingly innocuous to others.. fast forward to a year or so ago and i showed him a section from the eagles documentary where don henley talks about the meaning of hotel california and how much trouble christian evangelists gave the song due to their own interpretation etc , so completely refuted the claims my father had told me were fact as a kid ,from the horses mouth so to speak .
his answer was ,"well of course he'd say that he wants to save face ,he wouldn't admit the truth !".
I hadn't heard that about Hotel California but there was something about the song "Another One Bites the Dust".
At first when I read the title to this post I thought it was going to make reference to the part in Hotel California that says "you can check in but you can never check out" and compare it to the JWs..hahaha...
episode 3 is now out and available on itunes or whatever you use, as well as my site, linked below.
this one is heavier and about life at home growing up as a jw.
i even had an epiphany while recording it, which you'll hear as you listen.
Hi Dubstepped - I listened to the third episode you posted and I'm so sorry you had to endure all that. That must really have been difficult. I'm embarrassed to admit that growing up as a JW I often looked at the elders families with a little envy because they seem to be so exemplary and happy. I can see from your story that appearances can be deceiving. Once I was a teenager, I realized that being an Elder's child was the WORST fate possible. If just being a regular JW was bad, being the elder's kids put 100 times more pressure on you to be perfect. It just goes to show that you might think you have it bad but there's always someone who has it worse.
I think there is a big spectrum in the hall of JW's - looks like your family was definitely on the more fanatical side.
my little brother on the left exited the cult after 29 years.. me in the middle.. my older brother on the right stopped his bible study after discovering ttatton youtube videos.. never lose hope guys!.
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Nice pic! Thanks for posting
just wondering if there ever been a brother that got dfd and then was shunned by his wife and his at home kids and he's just said , if your going to treat me like this screw it and walked away from all his responsibilities as a provider etc?
it must be hard for those that are dfd to continue to support those that shun him?
again anyone hear of such a case?.
thanks for posting the info @jp1692 - I think I've read something on this forum about adding something to the divorce agreement that restricts attendance to all meetings or conventions and going door to door. I would definitely be looking into some sort of legal means of limiting the indoctrination. There must be such a sense of powerlessness for df'd parents who have to share custody.
just wondering if there ever been a brother that got dfd and then was shunned by his wife and his at home kids and he's just said , if your going to treat me like this screw it and walked away from all his responsibilities as a provider etc?
it must be hard for those that are dfd to continue to support those that shun him?
again anyone hear of such a case?.
This sounds like a terrible idea- depending on the age of the children the parent would be legally responsible and could even face jail time if they don't comply with child support,etc.
I was actually wondering if anyone has heard of a df'd parent bringing accusations of "parent alienation" against their JW ex spouse because it sounds to me if you are telling your kid their dad is going to die in armageddon and to shun him you might have a strong case.
absolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.
i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.
i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.
This is such great news! Thanks for posting. Keeps me hopeful that some of my family will leave some day.
Interesting about the depression- I noticed this before I left. All JWs always say how everyone is so happy inside the org but the more I looked around my congregation...seemed like everyone was on antidepressants or something.
So happy you got your brother back!
going “hollywood” hasn’t seemed to help build any enthusiasm for the wtbts.
think about it, jw’s now have their own studio to make videos and cartoons.
the ‘kingdom’ dirges (songs) have received a makeover to a bit more modern tunes.
Those videos will be their downfall- that bunker video was just nuts! I mean it seriously looked like the beginning of an SNL skit. Reminded me of those modern day dramas in the 80's. They were so "out there".
I say keep 'em coming and people will start waking up real fast.
i have a request to our friends living in the usa.
im trying to track down an article printed by time magazine in which they interviewed fred franz.
in my local library here in liverpool they have a massive bound volume collection of time going back to the 1930s.
Thanks! @ScenicViewer
i have a request to our friends living in the usa.
im trying to track down an article printed by time magazine in which they interviewed fred franz.
in my local library here in liverpool they have a massive bound volume collection of time going back to the 1930s.
The perks of higher education - you have access to online library/digital journal database
i have a request to our friends living in the usa.
im trying to track down an article printed by time magazine in which they interviewed fred franz.
in my local library here in liverpool they have a massive bound volume collection of time going back to the 1930s.
Was that what you were looking for @pale.emperor?
