15 years ms.....gulp. tried to push me toward being an elder. Was wise enough to avoid. Came off as an ms as couldn't face it anymore knowing TTATT
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How Far Up The Ladder Did You Go In JW Land?
by minimus ini pretty much did it all.
vacation pioneered as a youngster and became a regular pioneer out of school.
i became a ms then an elder.....the organization pushes you to be somebody within the confines of their realm.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Mind Numbingly Boring To You?
by minimus ini honestly think they are the most boring people on earth!
even when they produce their so called "new light", there's no excitement.
jws just do their thing and refuse to think about their useless lives.
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The issue I believe as to why many individuals find the meetings mundane, boring and uninteresting is to do with the structure of the meeting. The mid week CLAM meeting is one giant yawn. Reading through books and other literature and then parroting the answers that are in the paragraph is most definitely a factor. Monotone speakers is another. Also, When you sense that individuals on the platform aren't really speaking from the heart, it causes a lack of interest in what is being preached.
The only parts I enjoy mid week is the talks that focus on the actual word of God. The public talks on Sunday are also more stimulating, depending on the speaker of course.
Overall however, I personally find the meetings mundane, boring, repetative, uninspiring and uninteresting.
I get more out of listening to sermons from other Christian faith groups on line.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses Mind Numbingly Boring To You?
by minimus ini honestly think they are the most boring people on earth!
even when they produce their so called "new light", there's no excitement.
jws just do their thing and refuse to think about their useless lives.
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I think you are right minimus. It's like I have to be really solemn at meetings etc.
This is how I feel once I have left an assembly or convention
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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.
by jwfacts inthere seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.
do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.
some of the methods include:.
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Hi jwfacts
For me, it was the plain and simple age of the internet. At first, I was reluctant to read anything apostate on line as I was totally brainwashed in my view of anything apostate.
In 1995, I remember going in to a Christian book shop and seeing a book about the Witnesses and bought it. I then sat in the car and looked at the cover of the book, but then decided I couldn't read it as this was wrong. So I threw it in the rubbish
What finally drew my attention to apostate material was when a brother sent a link to ancient Babylon photos which I found interesting. I clicked a few links and saw the confusion over the date 607 bce.
This then led me to JWN and the rest is history.
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Just ordered the book Crisis of Conscience
by CitizenofEarth inhello there.. i just ordered the book coc, and will son recieve it.
does anyone have anything you want to mention about the book - perhaps some things you stumbled upon that might help me understand something more?
or maybe you have any thoughts you want to share regarding the book?
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I read this book twice. I couldn't put it down. I even jotted down about 40 pages of notes as had to hand it back in to the library. I felt that others like myself needed to read it and didn't want to hold on to it. That was back in 2003. Would love to get my own copy.
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Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall
by UnshackleTheChains inis this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.
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My response to various comments that I got when starting to grow a beard before I faded, was always: If your God YAWHE has given me a gift as a man, would n´t it be very ungrateful trying every morning to get rid of his gift…..
Was this the kind of facial reaction you received when you gave your response bugbear 😁
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Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall
by UnshackleTheChains inis this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.
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This is a message to the Governing Body and all those with clout at Bethel Warwick who may be looking this up on your smartphones.
If you read this thread, you Will see just how ridiculous and distractive this whole thing is. It's stupid....that's all it is.
It really is a stupid man made rule. Do you really think that YHWH or his son, the the foretold Messiah,, our Lord and King 'Yeshua' have a problem with a man choosing to have a beard or not?
It's a manmade rule. A Rutherford rule. Thats it...nothing else.
PLEASE END THIS SILLY RULE. PEOPLE HAVE WOKEN UP AND KNOW HOW STUPID THE NO BEARD RULE IS. TOODALOO
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Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall
by UnshackleTheChains inis this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.
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I pointed out that Brother Trash Collector, the elder had a mustache, to which they replied that he has always had one, which made it OK
Which goes to prove that each hall varies in its micro management of individuals trapped in this captive religion
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Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall
by UnshackleTheChains inis this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.
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Finally, for you former elders out there, have you ever had to give a bearded investigator the bad news that his prized beard had to go? How did he respond?
- I was one of those individuals. It was about 25 years ago. I had a neat trim beard when about 6 months in I was taken to the back of the hall by an elder and tactfully told that brothers don't wear beards. Being young and naive, I thought it was scriptural. So I simply accepted it as full of zeal at the time believing I had the truth.
- For about 10 years up until the age of the internet, this rule always niggled me as never saw any specific scripture to back up this rule. It wasn't until I read online the truth about the truth. We owe all our thanks to this ridiculous cult like rule to non other than judge Joseph Rutherford.
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Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall
by UnshackleTheChains inis this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.
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Why do you frown upon beards when Jesus and his disciples sported them?
Why do you frown upon beards when your modern-day founder, Charles Taze Russell and not a few of his followers sported them?
I think there was a Watchtower article back in the seventies that referred to brothers wearing beards being confused with individuals who might be part of the beatnik movement or something. So if a brother was wearing a beard whilst out in the work, householders might view him like this
Of course, the beatnik movement were considered rebel like. So of course such articles only further promoted the idea that brothers growing beards were displaying a rebellious spirit.
There were other articles, but this was just an example. Also, I once heard a PO describe beards as dirty. It was a horrible disgusting comment to make at a public meeting.
The guy might have well stood up and said to everyone ' hey, we are a high control religious group (Christian btw) that micro manages everyone. If you want to be a Christian in this organisation..shave of your beard and wear a suit'