ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
Jwfacts.com explains very clearly why so many rank and file witnesses were putting their trust and faith in the year 1975.
Also keep in mind the CONSTANT teaching and emphasis of 'this generation' was playing on everybody's mind which no doubt fueled the whole notion about 1975.
ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
Ok. So I'm sitting there at the convention. The video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the Bible by adhering to the scripture that says:
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'
He mentions that 'some were putting their faith in a date (the speaker during his talk points out that the date was 1975)
So.....for the more astute ones out there attending the convention, surely they must have asked themselves where on earth Jehovah's Witnesses got the idea about the date 1975? Were these ones apostate in their thinking? Why didn't such ones also adhere to the scripture that the faithful brother followed in that 'no one knows the day nor the hour?
Over to you Freddie!!
hey guys i just wanted to share with you all a video we made this week for watchtower victims memorial day.
cheers!
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Excellent video.
The Society's shunning policy needs to end.The GB MUST be feeling under alot of pressure to change their harmful policies such as shunning given the exposure such videos are having in the media
Keep up the good work guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyzbjz8x9y4.
Watched it last night. Very effective. Hopefully more witnesses will wake up and realise this cruel policy has to stop. My heart goes out to those who were interviewed and to all those affected by this man made policy.
hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.
after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.
i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.
The one brother, John Joseph May, had questions (for one thing) about 1914... and another bout why Freddy Franz was DF'd. He "rang" Brother Barr (who had been a friend of the family for many years) and then wrote him with about 12 questions, never got an answer, got an "acknowledgement" but no answers.
They used a lot of money to travel to NY to speak with the GB.... they would not meet with them. You can hear this dear person tell the story himself
If my research is correct, there were several congregations in the Dublin area; and many witnesses left due to the way John may and Martin merriman were treated both in the United States by the GB AND when back in Ireland by the CO and elders. It created quite a stir at the time.
hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.
after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.
i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.
Ray Frankz
I am a letter writer too. I have sent several letters so far. My wife is aware of my activities and has given me an amusing nick name as a result.
If you are writing a letter in your own name (which I would advise against). Be careful how the letter is written. It is unlikely you will get a reply to be honest, but never know. About 5 years ago, I wrote a letter about the fact that Jesus seems to be left to the sidelines alot. Strangely, perhaps coincidental they had an entire convention devoted to Jesus Christ the year after. I'm not saying my letter had a direct impact, but who knows what effect our letters can have.
Best of luck
the reason i like this site is in the fact that it speaks the truth warts and all.
the very title 'jehovahs witness discussion forum' draws the avarage witness to the site, perhaps thinking it is 'apostate' free.. the good thing is that jw's can read the real truth about the organisation/society...no holds barred.
my hope is that more people caught up in this captive religious organisation will open their eyes to reality!.
The reason I like this site is in the fact that it speaks the truth warts and all. The very title 'Jehovahs witness discussion forum' draws the avarage witness to the site, perhaps thinking it is 'apostate' free.
The good thing is that JW's can read the real truth about the organisation/society...no holds barred.
My hope is that more people caught up in this captive religious organisation will open their eyes to reality!
http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.
the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.
the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.
Another waste of a young woman's life. It is just so sad.. The WT corporation will will face a backlash when they eventually get rid of 'their" blood policy
have you ever admitted to your jw family and "friends" that you read apostate sites?.
My wife and mother know, but don't know who I am on here.
i was born in 1984 so was only 9yo in 1995. i read on various posts on here and on other websites about false expectations about 1975 and 1995. i'm aware of the 1975 failure but what was said in 1995?.
"Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away"
Ok. Let's break this down. For many many years 'Emphasis' is given by the leaders of the ONLY true religion on earth by using the words most importantly. So, for Joe public and the faithful, it's 'LISTEN UP FOLKS'. WE are God's mouth piece, his channel of communication; and according JEHOVAH GOD, he has promised that the new world/age is coming within the lifetime of individuals who actually saw the events of 1914 (ie the outbreak of world war 1). The time when Jesus came into Kingdom power in heaven and Satan hurled to the vicinity of the earth. You therefore must listen to God, trust in God and have faith in God by preaching this message far and wide. It is 'THE TRUTH'
Roll on November 1995
Suddenly this MOST IMPORTANT promise by GOD has subtly been changed to building confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things.
So who got the generation teaching wrong then. The Society implied that God had made the promise about the generation who saw the events of 1914 and that they would not pass away. But that promised prediction was actually proven false. It was not God's promise. It was a false teaching by men claiming to be God's channel of communication.
So what damage has this caused?
Well firstly, Just think how that teaching has made God look. People lose faith in God because of such false prophecies. In fact, many have lost faith as a result.
The reality is that it was never God who made such a promise. It was the leaders of a publishing corporation who falsely made such a prediction and shamefully used Jehovah's name as their guaranteed stamp of approval in their literature and emphasized this for years.
Think how angry God must feel when 'men' do such things. Well we do know how Jehovah views such matters. The Governing Body need to be reminded of his warning given to his people of the past. The following statement is something Jehovah definately spoke and should be a warning for all Christian faith groups who presume to prophecy in his name.
Deuteronomy 18:20 (ESV)
'But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die'
