They simply have to reform.
I would agree with much as mentioned throughout the thread, but judging by the governing bodies stubborn evasive and deceitful stance they seem to take, I very much doubt they will ever reform.
i've seen many topics about how things are changing or might be changing in jw doctrine/culture.
some have extrapolated how those changes would result in declining jw membership.
i'm curious to know what changes others think would stabilize those numbers.
They simply have to reform.
I would agree with much as mentioned throughout the thread, but judging by the governing bodies stubborn evasive and deceitful stance they seem to take, I very much doubt they will ever reform.
this is an example of a story that just strikes me as funny from their publications:.
"wilson, a christian from ghana, was notified that in a few days, he would be fired from his job.
on his final day at work, he was assigned to wash the private car of the managing director of the company.
Wait... wasn't Mr Wilson in the film castaway 😋
ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
Just found this link too. No smoke without fire as they say
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/JehovahsWitnesses/comments/7evyi5/the_pedophiles_known_as_the_governing_body/#ampf=undefined
ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
Are you suggesting accusations like the following could be corroborated? If so, this would I deed be dynamite!
http://www.silentlambs.org/personal_experiences/tedjaracz.cfm
Wow...thanks for that link dart feydher
ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
Ok. We are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.
This has probably been discussed before, which I apologize for now if it has.
The obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.
However, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the GB itself, whether it be some individuals within the GB of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about? I mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???
Any thoughts?
Saw this pic on exjw Reddit. Brilliant
jesus version of forgiveness.
https://youtu.be/6snr5zjfngg.
jehovah's witness version of forgiveness.
This is what you need to do to get Watchtower forgiveness
jesus version of forgiveness.
https://youtu.be/6snr5zjfngg.
jehovah's witness version of forgiveness.
Jesus version of forgiveness
Jehovah's Witness version of forgiveness
i thought this was a very interesting argument by robert king.
i liked the point he made about if israel had a prophet who spoke in the name of jehovah and it did not occur did this mean that the nation of israel was a false prophet or more so if the nation of israel sincerely believed it.
the answer to that is a resounding no because the nation of israel was god’s appointed nation.
Now let me give some careful consideration to that question 🤔.
as an elder, i saw one child abuse situation involving a man who wanted to be an elder and had i believe 8 children.
he was not in our congregation when this all erupted.
he denied it and moved to another hall and unbelievably, that body of elders wanted to appoint him since they believed his entire family was lying about him.
One elder in my old hall was disfellowshipped for molesting boys. Another 'brother' who was in our current hall was charged and imprisoned for historical abuse of several girls including his grand daughter. He was at one time an elder (the elders in several halls never reported this pervert to the police)