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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  I know the matter has now been clarified, but can I suggest that you could have made it clear in your OP what the main focus was because - inadvertently - prominence is given to Mikey and Kim - especially the first sentence mentioning the threat of their being shut down

  Steve2

  Thanks for your response and appreciate your feedback. I get your point and will consider how I write up my OPs in future.

  As an individual who wants to see change within the organisation, my hope is that my efforts and the efforts of everyone else can in some way affect change. As a father and a husband, I want the best for my family. I worry about what I consider the hard line approach Watchtower is taking in their interpretation or brand of Christianity. As an ex Catholic who joined what I thought was a wonderful loving Christian faith group, I believed everything; and I mean everything that emanated from the WTB&TS.

  Sadly. It wasn't until I accidentally came across the 607 debacle on line when the internet first started coming to prominence, that I gradually started to awaken to the truth.

  My world changed. The internet led me to crisis of conscience and the rest is history.

  The organisation needs to change. Every individual can make a difference. All the organisation has to do is accept they made mistakes and reform. They need to reform. People have been hurt for far too long. Christianity is about love and peace, not division and hate.

  My hope is that somewhere within the ranks of the leadership, hearts will be opened and change will come. I pray for this.

  
  
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  Also a big thank you to Zeb for the link 😉
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  Thanks to Jaydee,, truth B known and diogenesister for your information.

  Much appreciated 😁
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  So, what does this have to do with the threat of Mike and Kim's YouTube site being taken down?

  We've had perhaps two maybe three different new topics on this in recent weeks - and one conclusion is that they have repeatedly ignored demands to cease using so much copyrighted material

  Steve2

  This thread was not about whether Mike and Kim infringed on copyrighted material or not. If they have, they have; if they haven't, they haven't. So be it.

  My point was Mikey's reference to the 'boys in Pennsylvania'. The lawyers, the policy makers, the accountants who are the power behind Watchtower. I was just curious to find out more information on this, that's all!

  ....and to be honest, I have personally found the responses on this thread fascinating. An eye opener from my stand point. It would explain why my letters and those of others are not responded to AND/OR fobbed off with what appears to be a generic type letter advising individuals to read some old Watchtower somewhere! or to speak to their elders with their concerns etc. This in itself appears to be policy!!

  In the organisation I work for, which is a very large UK wide organisation, they actually encourage feedback on everything from its members. They make changes as and when required and benefits the organisation.

  Organisations thrive on constructive feedback. That's no secret!

  Watchtower doesn't allow constructive feedback. That's why they are being hammered in the media and at hearings such as the ARC over all the unnecessary controversies they have brought on themselves.

  No members are allowed to question anything around policies and teachings, particularly when such policies or teachings are glaringly wrong, unfair or harmful to its members!

  If it is the case that the people pulling all the strings for Watchtower are indeed the 'boys in Pennsylvania' as Mikey calls them,; then it is they who we should be corresponding with in relation to writing our concerns/ giving constructive feedback/efforts to affect change in policy/teaching etc

  That was my point for this thread.
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  The Presiding Overseer told me that the second one if a secondary corporation in charge of the legal department for the WB&TS.

  Eventually they wanted to distance themselves from the idea that a corporation was in charge of God's earthly organization and started sending letters from "The Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

  Truth B Known

  You said you were 15 when you saw the letter heads on the two letters. Out of interest, what year was that? and do you know when they started using the letterhead 'Christian' congregation of Jehovah's witnesses
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  This was a man made religion from the start and it has used it`s influence over Gulilble people to build itself into a multi-million dollar publishing empire over the western world

  Smiddy

  Thank you for this point. It appears that this seems to be the case. I sent several letters under an alias name with a fake email address to the GB about their controversial policies. Not once did I get a reply. In fact one of those letters was in my real name and address and yet they didn't reply. It appears to be their policy to either fob people of with a generic read a Watchtower or two; or to simply not reply to letters.

  I have no doubt in my mind this is a policy put in place by the boys in Pennsylvania.

  Diogenesister

  Can you remember which broadcast William Malenfant was on most recently? Just out of curiosity.

  Thanks for all your replies everyone. 😋
  
  
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  Thanks Bugbear for that information. That's fascinating. It would be great if could get an address.
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  There will also be an un-named two or three legal men and two or three money men/P.R. gurus who will be consulted on how to achieve certain ends. (e.g. self preservation and power through financial well-being which in turn will be protected by legally fighting child abuse lawsuits, flipping properties and encouraging donations.

  So this explains why IBSA made a complete ass of itself by fighting tooth and nail against the UK charity commission!!

  So it is these individuals who try to promote a squeaky clean organisation (good PR keeps the money flowing).

  These are the guys who will stand on anyone who get in their way and will fight tooth and nail to avoid bad PR. (Yet bad PR they now have)

  Hence their reluctance to admit or accept they have got their more harmful policies all wrong; Eg blood policy, safeguarding policy, shunning policy etc. It all makes sense now.

  What a transparent organisation we have been part off!
  
  
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  JW Accountants and Lawyers?

  Thanks Freddo

  So all the letters people have been writing to Watchtower headquarters for all these years has been pretty much pointless!

  These letters could and should have been sent to Pennsylvania. Letters about the blood policy, the shunning policy, children and vulnerable adults safeguarding policy etc.

  Does anyone know the address in Pennsylvania?, because I am resending ALL my letters I wastelessly sent to the Governing Body!!
  
  
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  UnshackleTheChains

  Hi everyone,

  I am quite interested in something Mike and Kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  In their video below, at around 35 seconds. Mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in Pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - NOT the Governing Body?

  I know that Mike and Kim have their own crazy brand of style in exposing Watchtower (which admittedly I like), but from watching their videos over the years, they are usually very accurate with their information as back it up with documents etc. This is all the more reason mike's comment can be given some credibility.

  So what I would like to know is if anyone has further information about 'The boys in Pennsylvania'? Who are they? Is there pictures of Watchtowers Pennsylvania buildings etc? Has any ex JW's worked there and can give experiences?

  Admittedly i found this comment by mike quite a revelation. See video below

  https://youtu.be/cOayyCZhD6w