Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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A WTF Moment While In the WTS

by Searching in

has anyone else had a moment, while still within the organization (and before learning ttatt) that caused them to stop and go, "this is kind of messed up.".

for instance, back i believe in the early 2000's, i was attending a dc with my family.

it was announced at the beginning of the convention that there was going to be a special announcement at the end, so for everyone to please try to remain until the very end of the meeting.

I remember attending a one day assembly about 10 years ago and Steven Lett was (I believe...in the UK on a branch visit). Everyone was excited to watch and listen to A GOVERNING BODY member bless us with his presence on the big screen.

What did we get. Was it going to be something big, something extraordinary. No we got a MrTweedy lookalike banging on about some little girl who was loyal to Jehovah for not celebrating her friends birthday party whome she had been invited. Yes she stood up to all those other bad little boys and girls who did celebrate such a terrible thing. Yes the anniversary of the day her friend was born. Shock horror. That was definitely my wtf moment.

You wait in anticipation for every word that comes out if these guys mouths and you get some non biblical, non essential nothingness. 🙄

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Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.

jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.

by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .

UnshackleTheChains

Wow. This is dynamite.

I would love to get into Watchtower leadership's psychological mindset to try and understand why they are sticking rigidly to their guns. Why don't they simply comply with the law ( the authorities placed in their relative positions by God).

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Question about dfed relatives

by awake!watcher in

jw
friends

does anyone know if there is a wt reference that says associating with a dfed relative is a conscience matter?

i am asking because someone is trying to cause trouble and i was hoping there was an article i could point to to shut them up..

UnshackleTheChains

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/disfellowship-shunning.php

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Awakening from the Jehovah's witness nightmare.

by James Mixon in

a really moving testimony.

maybe some one can post it here, "monica singleton..awakening from the jehovah's witness nightmare".

posted nov. 11,2017 12:41 min........

UnshackleTheChains

Saw this the other day. Was quite moved.

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Is All The Bad Publicity About The Watchtower Pedophile Lawsuits Causing Contributions To Nose Dive Worldwide?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.

the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.

and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.

UnshackleTheChains

According to this guy, 252 Congregations (Assuming KHs) sold in past few years in Germany?

https://youtu.be/e0LVvY2QUrM

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Huge scriptures destroying their two witness doctrine and possibly all others!

by Crazyguy in

in the latest broadcast the evil cult leader mention scriptures in the book of deuteronomy saying it takes two witnesses to convict someone.

then they go on and mention jesus steamily stating the same thing in mathew chapter 18. but the scriptures they fail to mention are verses 18-20 .

the jist of this part of the chapter is if a brother has an issue with another brother go talk to him about your complaint.

UnshackleTheChains

Totally agree crazy guy.

If each congregation was allowed autonomy and the elders allowed to follow the spirit of the scriptures instead of a man made policy, then justice on the whole would be served.

But hey, loyalty to Jehovah (aka the WT Organisation) comes first.

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'If you reason something out; you will be influenced to make the proper decision'

by UnshackleTheChains in

take a look at watchtowers reasoning in the first video from 46 minutes to 56 minutes regarding the 2 witness rule.

the scripture the watchtower representative refers to is perfectly fine in relation to situations within context.. but how can the 2 witness rule be applied to a sexual assault or child abuse allegation when only the victim and the perpetrator were present when the crime took place?

how can the 2 witness rule be applied if the perpetrator denies the allegation?..

UnshackleTheChains

Wifibandit

Thankyou for bringing our attention to this particular Watchtower. The above paragraph even makes a lot of sense.

Now it certainly begs the question. Why didn't Brother Breaux remind his audience of this information?

The November broadcast is a classic example of - Information control!

The point where the paragraph says...... they may have experience in the field at issue and be able to establish whether what occurred was truly wrong...made me chuckle.

When it comes to serious crime, you REALLY need individuals with experience in the field. You won't find that at a JC.

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"we would never deliberately distort a quotation"

by ttdtt in

omg my head exploded!in this months broadcast - splian goes off on how much care the wt in making sure its facts are correct, and how they make sure their quotes are not taking from people who have a bad reputation or have an agenda.

and that the make sure its always in context!.

they are such liars!.

UnshackleTheChains

I think Watchtower writing department staff need to invest in one of these

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'If you reason something out; you will be influenced to make the proper decision'

by UnshackleTheChains in

take a look at watchtowers reasoning in the first video from 46 minutes to 56 minutes regarding the 2 witness rule.

the scripture the watchtower representative refers to is perfectly fine in relation to situations within context.. but how can the 2 witness rule be applied to a sexual assault or child abuse allegation when only the victim and the perpetrator were present when the crime took place?

how can the 2 witness rule be applied if the perpetrator denies the allegation?..

UnshackleTheChains

Take a look at Watchtowers reasoning in the first video from 46 minutes to 56 minutes regarding the 2 witness rule. The scripture the Watchtower representative refers to is perfectly fine in relation to situations within context.

But how can the 2 witness rule be applied to a sexual assault or child abuse allegation when only the victim and the perpetrator were present when the crime took place? How can the 2 witness rule be applied if the perpetrator denies the allegation?.

Angus Stewart from the Australian Royal commission also puts across his point in the 2nd video about reasoning things out.

See if you can spot the difference

Remember

'If you reason something out; you will be influenced to make the proper decision'

https://youtu.be/kSZ0qifTSOk

https://youtu.be/dJE4_xGHs8E

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In what decade was it clearly apparent that Watchtower was a high control religion?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i'm just curious to get people's views on this.. the bible students seem to start of as quite a liberal group under charles taze russell, albeit he had some whacky teachings going on.

obviously things began to change under rutherford.

but what decade did it become abundantly clear that the society was indeed high control religion or even labeled a cult?.

UnshackleTheChains

Russell initially rejected calls from his many subscribers to form an organization. He said that they should stay in whatever church they attended and that Jesus knew his sheep

A quote from Charles Taze Russell

I confess indebtedness to Adventists as well as to other denominations.

Zion's Watch Tower, (June 1, 1916) p. 170