I must apologize, this information came from "The Herald of Christ's Kingdom" Vol IX October 1, 1926 no 19 which was written by a splinter group that left the Bible Students when Rutherford took over WTBTS called the Pastoral Bible Institute. I was incorrect to attribute this to Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Sorry about the confusion.
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October 1, 1926 WT on the Prophetic Seven Times of the Gentiles
by JakeM2012 ini know that this has been discussed previously about the 607 b.c.e and the 586 b.c.e.
debate.
but i found it interesting in the october 1, 1926 wt the quotes under the subheading:.
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October 1, 1926 WT on the Prophetic Seven Times of the Gentiles
by JakeM2012 ini know that this has been discussed previously about the 607 b.c.e and the 586 b.c.e.
debate.
but i found it interesting in the october 1, 1926 wt the quotes under the subheading:.
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I bought the PDF's of the Watchtower several years ago and was skimming through the years in my quest for the truth about the truth. I have not verified these quotes with a hard copy of the 1926 WT. Perhaps someone here has access.
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October 1, 1926 WT on the Prophetic Seven Times of the Gentiles
by JakeM2012 ini know that this has been discussed previously about the 607 b.c.e and the 586 b.c.e.
debate.
but i found it interesting in the october 1, 1926 wt the quotes under the subheading:.
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I know that this has been discussed previously about the 607 B.C.E and the 586 B.C.E. debate. But I found it interesting in the October 1, 1926 WT the quotes under the subheading:
"The Prophetic Seven Times of the Gentiles"
Paragraph 3
"As has already been acknowledged by many Bible students, the lease of Gentile power, commencing in Nebuchadnezzars's first year, 606 B.C.,reaches unto approximately 1914 A.D., at which time the lease was due to run out.* But as it was about 19 years after the commencement of the universal kingdom by Nebuchadnezzar before the complete downfall of the Jewish kingdom and before the crown was removed from Judah's last king, so it has been found interesting as well as logical to calculate the "seven times" of 2520 years from 588 B.C. when the Jews were completly subjugated and this brings us to approximately 1934 A.D.
"Thus from all the facts we are able to gather it would seem that the times of the Gentiles in the last and final sense are due to run their full course by the last date named above, when there might be reasonably expected, events and developments of the very great moment in evidence. We are making no predictions, nor hastily arriving at any visionary or fanatical conclusions. We are patiently biding the time and waiting for the days to disclose what may be the program of events. The most we are doing is exercising our privilege of soberly looking at the facts of prophecy and history in the light of present day developments, and therby recognizing that there is a remarkable synchronizing of circumstances and events in these days with the prophetic times."
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Would Witnesses drink "the cool-aid" if instructed to by the Governing body?
by Witness 007 inmy anionted mum always said she's "willing to die for the truth like the brothers in the concentration camps".....how many witnesses would do this, like the "heavens gate" suicide group or the tokyo cult that tried to start armagedon with subway gas attacks or even the 9/11 terrorists?.
the brothers in the camps in world war 2 were told by rutherford this is armagedon.
so they thought a quick death and then "poof"...i'm in paradise.. .
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So is it the idea that the WT lawyers get all the property and cash personally available to themselves and then get everyone to drink the coolaid and retire in France next the Angolina and Brad? Perhaps they would change the idea on memorial partakers so that everyone partakes and then send the congregations a "special" bottle of unfermented wine. Oh, so evil.
I don't see the mass suicide any benefit to WT financially, it's hard to get money from a dead person unless they have life insurance, property, or cash and WTS is named as beneficiary. Some life insurance won't pay if it is suicide, the results would be held up in court. Then you have the class action suits when everyone dies from the surviving unbelieving families. Too much trouble.
It seems more effective to liquidate the branches, get rid of the overhead of feeding the bethel families, taking care of the elderly bethelites, minimize the printing cost by having the pubs do their own, then guilt trip everyone into donating everything for one last march around the walls of Jericho before the finale (we really mean the final end this time) when the trumpets are blown and the walls fall down. Oh, they have already done most of this. Duh?
WTBTS already has everyone drinking the coolaid, and providing them a "living sacrifice" why mess up something good? You can shear a sheep's wool once a year maybe twice, but you can only slaughter it once. I'm still curious who owns the original stock and what kind of cut they are getting? When you have a worldwide business and money and product are moved and exchanged their are plenty of opportunities to skim, especially with the latest monopoly branch trades. Ok, I'll trade the Brooklyn Boardwalk and Parkplace for Pennsylvania Avenue properties and 1 Billion dollars.
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Adam and Jesus in the scales.... Bull crap.
by snare&racket inone of the hardest questions to answer if you believe in an all loving god, is why 'he' permits so much pain and suffering?
of course as imperfect, sinful humans we all know we could not bare to watch a day of human suffering without helping out, how could a god cope and not intervene for thousands of years....?.
the answer most of us all accepted was a pair of scales.
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What kind of reasoning do you think an organization will base their view of the scriptures on when you have lawyers (Rutherford) writing the WT publications? The whole idea of the balanced scales of justice and santification of God's name just doesn't fit. If it doesn't fit you must acquit.
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Got my Privileges Removed today, any advice?
by mrbunyrabit insooo i was a ministerial servant (omg a ministerial servant on this site!?
you apostate!!!
) yea yea i just wanted to see what other people think and whatever, coz i had a few questions myself, (butttt its not like i was about to start throwing them with rocks and stuff, they arent that bad).
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"Just remember, your value as a person is not determined by those men." I couldn't agree more. Many problems on the elder body are because weinie elders don't have their own compass or a basic internal value of themselves; these men have to be appointed to be valued. I have a brother in law that has not been reappointed in four years after moving congregations because the hateful letter that followed. He is enslaved mentally to the current body trying to please them. If you want to get back in you have to do some major suck up and get an elder as a sponsor. Stand up for what you think is right. Take your leave and run with it. I have found more satisfaction in volunteering at the humane society a few hours a month than I ever did in field service.
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These movies/songs are banned if you are a JW
by usualusername incoz it teaches that life exists on other planets.
grease.
think it was banned in a watchtower.
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The Beatles were bashed in the 60's, "I want to hold your hand" was so demoralizing. I thought they had an article in the Awake about the Beatles but I haven't found it in the Library CD.
Demonstrations about a mom helping her daughter to pick appropriate music and Elton John was not named specifically but there was no doubt who they were talking about because he had just come out as bi-sexual.
Led Zeppelan's "stairway to heaven" because if you played it backwards in one part it said, "worship Satan". Backward masking or listening to songs backwards seems to be someone's preoccupation.
Eagles were bad, "Hotel California" for some reason.
As far as movies, R-rating movies were a no-no that would keep you out of paradise. Some families would not even watch PG-13.
The second Indiana Jones was named at the Bethel table. I didn't like that one anyway.
Rules upon rules, always something for the self-righteous to glamorize themselves. I always loved it when brothers wanted to impose their conscience on your own. I jokingly told them that "I made a deal with my conscience, I wouldn't bother it if it did'nt bother me". Of course I used to listen to Elvis singing How Great thou art in the FS, never had anyone say anything about it.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-27-2012 WT Review (BEHIND)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 05-27-2012 wt study (march 15, 2012, pages 25-29 )(behind).
review comments will be headed by comments.
jehovahs organization = where is jesus in the picture?.
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Thanks for your comments Blondie,
I received these questions for a part on the service meeting this week. Seem clear that WTBTS looks back and remembers what they want to when it benefits them. Perhaps someone should make the comment for the service meeting part that after this last weeks wt we should not talk about any of this.
Service Meeting Questions on Video JW-Faith in Action Part 2 Let the Light shine May 28
1. What methods did the Bible Students use to spread the good news?
2. What happened at the land mark conventions in 1931 and 1935?
3. What was significant about the Nov. 1, 1939, issue of the Watchtower?
4. Describe what occurred at Madison Square Garden during Bro. Rutherford’s talk Government & Peace.
5. What was noteworthy about Bro. Knorr’s talk “Peace-Can it Last?”
6. In 1942, what plans did Jehovah’s Witnesses make to expand their preaching work?
7. Explain some of the legal battles that were fought in the U.S., Canada and Greece.
8. What impact did Gilead have on the growth of the preaching work?
9. What important work began in 1946, and Why?
10. What steps did J.W.’s take to make sure their conduct was in harmony with the standard set forth in the Bible?
11. Explain some of the adjustments that were made in the 1970’s to align the organization more closely with the pattern in the Bible.
12. How has viewing this video deepened your appreciation that Jehovah is in full control and that this is his organization?
13. How has this video strengthened your determination to continue zealously preaching despite obstacles?
14. How could we use this video to help our relatives, Bible students, and others?
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I may be stepping down!
by Kool Jo inso the co is in town...sorry i can't disclose much info....i haven't done anything wrong that warrants no longer serving as an ms....but the co is thinking of deleting me as an ms (my parents are aware)....i really hope he does as this will make my fade much more easier...... freedom is just around the corner i hope.... peace.
kool jo.
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I'm not informed of your details, but sometimes the CO's rattle the chain and leave some collateral damage behind to "motivate" the rest of the appointed men to tow the line. They like to wield the authority that they can fire one over your (ships) bow and hope they make you wet your pants and get you to fall in line. If it is announced that you are no longer serving as an MS, it not that big of a deal.
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GB: "We don't know if Jehovah wants us to build new headquarters, but we're doing it anyway..."
by cedars inthe latest august 15th watchtower study edition features an interesting review of the society's annual meeting.. one comment struck me as evidence that the governing body isn't quite as "discreet" as it claims.. here is what the article said:.
"there are plans to develop a 248-acre (100 ha) property at warwick.
'although we are not yet certain of jehovahs will regarding warwick,' said brother pierce, 'we are proceeding to develop the site with the intention of relocating the world headquarters of jehovahs witnesses there.
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Mosque to go up near New York's ground zero
May 07, 2010 | By Nicole Bliman, CNN"Plans to build a mosque two blocks away from ground zero have set off an emotional debate among area residents and relatives of victims of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks.
Cordoba House project calls for a 15-story community center including a mosque, performance art center, gym, swimming pool and other public spaces.
The project is a collaboration between the American Society for Muslim Advancement and the Cordoba Initiative, both of which work to improve relations with followers of the religion.
Comments: The American Society for Muslim Advancement is building a mosque in New York City and Watchtower, with a very prominant location for advertising, is cutting tail in disgrace.
I remember when they started talking about the Patterson Education Center in the 1980's. When researching the deeds of properties and their zoning for possible expansion in Brooklyn, they found out they already had property with hotel zoning. They applied for permits, which means they dished out some money to the City, and they got approval. They had also got approval for Patterson. Brothers were saying in talks that they didn't know if it was Jehovah's will to build both properties, but they would take the approval process as indication of his blessing. Shortly after finishing the 30 story building they sold it. Hum. God changed his mind I guess.
Don't be fooled, Watchtower property investors know exactly what they want to do, but the pseudo religion side uses the opportunity to present the information as verification that they are God's spokesman on earth.
Anybody can connect their conduct to approval with God. "Brother", we would like to talk to you about the harmful effects of materialism and your children attending the university". "Yes, we prayed and made an offer on the house and evidently it was God's will that we have it. We did the same for the children. We prayed that if it was God's will for the children to attend the university then he would let us know. We applied for these scholarships and at several universities and received acceptance from all the universities. It must have been Jehovah's will.