"9. Adam didn't have a penis"
I thought at one time they believed that Adam had the male and female sexual organs.
JakeM2012
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I have listed 10 facts I have learned coming on this site,please feel free to add yours
by smiddy ini would like to list 10 facts i have learned since coming on this site ,facts i wasn`t aware of while in the movement and facts that have set me free from a religous movement that really is not interested in facts per se.. these are not listed in order of importance , and feel free to add your own list that applys to your circumstances.
1.the wtb&ts involvement with the u.n.. 2.the wtb&ts investments/shares some of which are questionable.. 3.their real estate properties around the world, millions if not billions, of $$$, while being a not for profit organization.
4.their pretense of obeying the law on" blood" while conveniently adjusting it to minimise their legal obligations in threat of a lawsuit.
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A Kinder, Gentler Jehovah Emerges at the 2012 DC?
by Socrateswannabe inhaving attended this summer's district convention, i'm confused.
has a kinder, gentler jehovah emerged?.
acquiring an obedient heart-is it possible?
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JakeM2012
Sabatious say's: "It's much like how a wife beater acts." " It's just more of the same of the psychological mind *&$# that the Watchtower has to offer."
Well said, People hear what they want to hear and are resistant to big changes of attitude. The good cop, bad cop story.
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A Kinder, Gentler Jehovah Emerges at the 2012 DC?
by Socrateswannabe inhaving attended this summer's district convention, i'm confused.
has a kinder, gentler jehovah emerged?.
acquiring an obedient heart-is it possible?
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JakeM2012
As an old timer Bethelite said, "There is a war going on at Bethel"
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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JakeM2012
Reform movement= apostates (wt definition) that are stuck because of family and don't believe the crap anymore, hoping for a change. Good LUCK! Oh, I'm not supposed to use that term Lucky.
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WATCHTOWER (Madoff) with your investment
by Terry inif i were convincing you to invest your life savings in a guranteed investment based on "insider" information that made the payoff a sure thing.
and you acted to seize the opportunity---nobody would blame you for taking the plunge.. if i assured you....reassured you....repeatedly that the payoff and reward was "any day now" you might well hang in there for a long time.. .
but, at a certain point, your patience and trust would wear thin and a serious request for proof of legitimacy would hang heavy in the air.. .
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JakeM2012
Yes Donny,
As Clint Eastwood said in Outlaw Josie Wells, "We all lost a lot in that damn war".
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WATCHTOWER (Madoff) with your investment
by Terry inif i were convincing you to invest your life savings in a guranteed investment based on "insider" information that made the payoff a sure thing.
and you acted to seize the opportunity---nobody would blame you for taking the plunge.. if i assured you....reassured you....repeatedly that the payoff and reward was "any day now" you might well hang in there for a long time.. .
but, at a certain point, your patience and trust would wear thin and a serious request for proof of legitimacy would hang heavy in the air.. .
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JakeM2012
The investment in a REAL FUTURE is worth what has already been lost. You never get back what is already lost anyway.
Good Point!
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Watchtower Ruins a Wedding
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower ruins a wedding .
today i added a new article to my blog addressing the sad consequence to individuals lives the result of watchtowers infantile doctrinal policy making.
its the story of a man (and a woman) disfellowshipped for something watchtower later on decided was not immoral.
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JakeM2012
Oh, another story similar: In the 70's a husband was homosexual. The wife goes to the elders. The husband confesses to the elders homosexuality. However, since it was not "adultery" between a man and woman, then the woman was not free to marry. Any stories of this situation?
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Watchtower Ruins a Wedding
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower ruins a wedding .
today i added a new article to my blog addressing the sad consequence to individuals lives the result of watchtowers infantile doctrinal policy making.
its the story of a man (and a woman) disfellowshipped for something watchtower later on decided was not immoral.
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JakeM2012
Marvin,
Thank you for this information.
I am curious if you ever had a situation where one mate committed adultery, confessed this to the elders so that the other mate could be free to marry, and then the "innocent" mate said that they forgive the spouse? In the particular situation that I was referring to the adulerating mate did not want to be married to the current mate any longer, but wanted the mate to have a scriptural reason for divorce. The elders pushed the fact that if the innocent mate forgave the adultery, then it did not matter if the adulterer did not want to continue the marriage. Therefore, each mate was not free to marry. Thoughts?
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What Some Loyal JW's Are Saying About The Oakland Case.
by Bangalore inform the pro-jw site jwtalk.
this is such a ronald mcdonald court case.
i can't believe what i am reading.. lie: "the lawsuit alleged that watchtower had a policy that instructed elders in its jehovah's witnesses congregations to keep reports of child sex abusers within the religious group secret to avoid lawsuits.".
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JakeM2012
The confidentiality card. Wt makes all these rules about servants not being in a room alone with a women no matter; but they can't say be sure to go with you children to the bathroom, in field service, elders servants should not be in a car alone with a child not theirs? etc?
Obviously, the pediphilia threat has not been a priority. Why can't they make man made rules that children are only to be alone with their parents? Of all the personal business that the borg wants to get into, including saying what can and cannot take place with a married couple, but they can't have more information on protecting their own children? I know of several Awake magazines on it, but how many times have they considered it in the wt study? I don't have a wt library any more so maybe someone else knows.
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What Some Loyal JW's Are Saying About The Oakland Case.
by Bangalore inform the pro-jw site jwtalk.
this is such a ronald mcdonald court case.
i can't believe what i am reading.. lie: "the lawsuit alleged that watchtower had a policy that instructed elders in its jehovah's witnesses congregations to keep reports of child sex abusers within the religious group secret to avoid lawsuits.".
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JakeM2012
Interesting the things Jw's keep confidential and what they do not. For all the people, including elders that can take a comment on a paragraph or talk, screw it around to what their pet pieve is, but cannot do the same with comments about pediphiles is interesting.
We probably have all heard a talk on the school or "public talk" having one theme and the elder will start talking about one thing, get totally off the outline, and stand up on his soap box about what "he felt the congregation" needed.
Over the years I have confronted several brothers. One explained that his talk reflected the needs of the congregation. I replied, "the needs of the congregation gets 15 minutes a month". "If you want to make practical application it has to be within the subject that you are talking." Because I was tired of the loaded comments based on information that I believe was from his wife, I even said, "the FDS decides what the need of the congregation is". HaHa.
Even text comments at the field service meeting could be twisted around.
Several sisters in the congregation had cosmetic surgery or other cosmetic proceedures and that information went through the congregation like wild fire. I don't believe it is anyone's business, and it did not hurt anyone. But with pediphiles Jw's have to keep the confidentiality.???