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  Higher Education - is it that risky?

  by Simon Morley in

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  JakeM2012

  2013 District Convention Program: Safeguard yourself from Higher Education.

  9:40 Chairman’sAddress:WhyMustWe Safeguard Ourselves from Higher Education? (Proverbs 4:23; Jeremiah 17:5-10) 10:10 Acquiring “anObedientHeart” and not going to the University—Is It Possible? (1Kings 3:9) 10:30 DoYouHave aBalancedViewofYourself, or do you think you need Higher Education? (Romans 12:3) 10:50 SongNo. 57 andAnnouncements 11:00 Symposium: Beware ofDangerous Educational Traps! “Cunning of Higher Education” (Proverbs 7:10) “Minimal Education a must to Preach the Good News” (Psalm12:2) “Half Education Questionable Brazzen Conduct” (Psalm 119:113) “Are you in Want ofHeart (education)?” (Proverbs 7:7; 10:21) 11:40 KeynoteAddress: LetGod’sWordReveal the Education that you need via the WTBTS (Hebrews 4:12; James 1:22-25) 12:10 SongNo.113 and Intermission Afternoon 1:50 Music 2:00 SongNo.106 2:05 QuestionsAbout Higher Education that we will Tell You the Answers TO (Deuteronomy 4:39; Philippians 1:7, 8) 2:25 AvoidTestingGod by NOT Even thinking of Higher Education (Psalm78:18,19) 2:45 SoundDrama: FortifyYour Skills by Becoming Submissive Window Washers (Matthew27:32–28:15; Luke 24:8-53) 3:15 SongNo.116 andAnnouncements
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  In 19 days my hubby will be serving HRH Queen Elizabeth as a Royal engineer :)

  by watersprout in

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  Congratulation! This sound like an interesting job. If you are looking for a new start, I would be careful of talking to any window washers on the ship, they might be JW's.
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  Are the Watchtower HQ washing their hands of congregations?

  by uk_ex_jw in

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  it seems more and more from what i read that if there is problems in congregations (i.e.

  paedophilia) the wtbts are washing their hands of any wrongdoing and leaving the congregation and its elder's to carry the can.. is that how it is now?.

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  "No more cars, car insurance, gas bills, health insurance, cost for lodging, ect."

  The local congregation flip the bill for lodging (CO apartments) or staying with publishers. The CO apartments construction is done by the quickbuild. Expenses for the utilities and maintenance and paid for at the business meeting at the circuit assemblies.

  The local congregation are taxed on a per publisher basis for the cars. I can't remember if they considered the health insurance separate, but the pub pay for that also. I have not seen a CO that used his car in field service ever. At the end of each CO's visit the COPD asked about the expenses during the visit. The CO presents certain things for reinbursement. The COPD must ask about other expenses and that is optional, like Dry Cleaning etc.

  The circuit pays for their phones, again handled through the business meeting at the circuit assembly. That's why you can have an assembly with 1200 people and it costs $22K.
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  Main article on child abuse on watchtower.org right now

  by InquiryMan in

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  2. child-abuse

  they have chosen to highlight this article on their website:.

  http://www.watchtower.org/e/200710/article_01.htm.

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  Keep your children safe, How to protect your children" Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society quote,

  " If a child is taught that he must always obey any adult, regardless of the circumstances, he is vulnerable to abuse. Molesters are quick to notice when children are overly compliant. Wise parents teach their children that obedience is relative."

  Interesting that wtbts has always wanted to promote the "spiritual paradise" within the congregation and that we can have trust with our brothers and sisters. We have been instructed for years to trust our brothers and sisters and assume the best, not to suspect our brothers of ill will. Now after the Condi case, they want to put all the responsiblity on the trusting parents as if any abused children are the parents fault, and wtbts had nothing to do with child abuse. Right.

  They could have admonished parents 100 years ago not to leave their children alone with anyone. But they didn't!

  I have children and have always been protective. However, being overly protective can be overwhelming to a child.

  I got a kick out of the "wise parents teach their children that obedience is relative" comment. I think most everyone on this forum understands this now.

  It just makes me wonder of the reasons that they did not take child abuse as a priority? Could it be that there are some hidden sins within the GB? that have not come to light and that is the reason that they feel sexual child abuse has not been a priorty? Well maybe the threat of losing 20+ Million will get the hypocrites attention. I hope so.

  I believe the bottom line on this article is, "Too little, Too late". Sorry wt, pay the money and take a stand for righteousness sake. This is pitifull.

  One more point. There is a big difference between obeying Caesar to the letter of the law (reporting or not reporting child abuse anonymously), and doing what Jesus Christ admonished in the Sermon on the Mount.

  Matthew 5:20 says, " 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

  So tell me, why were wt lawyers given authority over how to handle this. Did they need 18 lawyers, or did they need to listen to (if they have one) a trained conscience?
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  I have listed 10 facts I have learned coming on this site,please feel free to add yours

  by smiddy in

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  i would like to list 10 facts i have learned since coming on this site ,facts i wasn`t aware of while in the movement and facts that have set me free from a religous movement that really is not interested in facts per se.. these are not listed in order of importance , and feel free to add your own list that applys to your circumstances.

  1.the wtb&ts involvement with the u.n.. 2.the wtb&ts investments/shares some of which are questionable.. 3.their real estate properties around the world, millions if not billions, of $$$, while being a not for profit organization.

  4.their pretense of obeying the law on" blood" while conveniently adjusting it to minimise their legal obligations in threat of a lawsuit.

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  "9. Adam didn't have a penis"

  I thought at one time they believed that Adam had the male and female sexual organs.
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  A Kinder, Gentler Jehovah Emerges at the 2012 DC?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  having attended this summer's district convention, i'm confused.

  has a kinder, gentler jehovah emerged?.

  acquiring an obedient heart-is it possible?

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  Sabatious say's: "It's much like how a wife beater acts." " It's just more of the same of the psychological mind *&$# that the Watchtower has to offer."

  Well said, People hear what they want to hear and are resistant to big changes of attitude. The good cop, bad cop story.
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  A Kinder, Gentler Jehovah Emerges at the 2012 DC?

  by Socrateswannabe in

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  having attended this summer's district convention, i'm confused.

  has a kinder, gentler jehovah emerged?.

  acquiring an obedient heart-is it possible?

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  JakeM2012

  As an old timer Bethelite said, "There is a war going on at Bethel"
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  Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion

  by Hermano in

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  found this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.

  this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.

  glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.

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  Reform movement= apostates (wt definition) that are stuck because of family and don't believe the crap anymore, hoping for a change. Good LUCK! Oh, I'm not supposed to use that term Lucky.
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  WATCHTOWER (Madoff) with your investment

  by Terry in

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  if i were convincing you to invest your life savings in a guranteed investment based on "insider" information that made the payoff a sure thing.

  and you acted to seize the opportunity---nobody would blame you for taking the plunge.. if i assured you....reassured you....repeatedly that the payoff and reward was "any day now" you might well hang in there for a long time.. .

  but, at a certain point, your patience and trust would wear thin and a serious request for proof of legitimacy would hang heavy in the air.. .

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  Yes Donny,

  As Clint Eastwood said in Outlaw Josie Wells, "We all lost a lot in that damn war".
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  WATCHTOWER (Madoff) with your investment

  by Terry in

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  if i were convincing you to invest your life savings in a guranteed investment based on "insider" information that made the payoff a sure thing.

  and you acted to seize the opportunity---nobody would blame you for taking the plunge.. if i assured you....reassured you....repeatedly that the payoff and reward was "any day now" you might well hang in there for a long time.. .

  but, at a certain point, your patience and trust would wear thin and a serious request for proof of legitimacy would hang heavy in the air.. .

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  The investment in a REAL FUTURE is worth what has already been lost. You never get back what is already lost anyway.

  Good Point!