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  My doubting friend came by and left the letter...

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i hope that i am not eating up alot of bandwidth and annoying anyone.

  however as i make my exit i want to reveal as many things as possible.

  i have a friend who had doubts about the latest change and wrote a letter.

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  Aude, " I don't recall ever seeing such a detailed response"

  Send in a donation for $5 and see how much attention you get.
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  Shunning for inactive ones?

  by frogonmytoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i visited my sister in a small town in the midst of the country, the town has a population of 3,000 and there's about 70 in the cong.

  anyway, there was a local needs talk a few months ago about associating with family members who didn't live under your roof and no longer went to meetings.

  one family of an elder dad and three sons (one an elder too, the others have stopped going) and a daughter (still going but married a 'worldly') are quite prominent and one half of a typical congregational feud.

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  It could be that they are not considered "exemplary". Which can be a big and wide net used anyway you want. Considering some of the other recent topics, it seems to be a trend of increased encouragement/enforcement of shunning inactive ones and possibly pursuing them to disfellowship them. As I said in another topic, it is getting pathetic.
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  Peace and Security - When?

  by rhodesboy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my interpretation of gb (governing body) theology has illuminated a fate for mankind in the near future.

  i invite you to read the following extracts and my analysis thereafter- theologists only please.. 1 thessalonians 5:3.

  ''whenever it is that they are saying: "peace and security!

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  JakeM2012

  I guess if Rhodes scholar is correct we should all run back to the kingdom hall and get in good standing so that when the GB makes an announcement to take some action that doesn't seem reasonable by human thinking we can follow their so far blind guidance to the letter. LOL
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  Some Things Would-be Shunners Need To Think About

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, you ( mr. or ms. hyperloyal witness) decide to succumb to cult peer pressure and shun me, your relative or friend.. need a ride to the airport?

  tough sh*t, pal.. does your car need a 'jump' at 7am?

  call triple a.. worried about dying alone?

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  JakeM2012

  Thanks Metatron, you are 100% correct. I have been having a progressive conversation with my wife about our families. Family on my side: we have an aging Mother that I expect that the Bethelite Brother and the "Sponge off Mother" Brother who is living in her house and unemployed will eventually call to insist that I help monetarily. I expect perhaps a few catchup calls to soften things up and then they will go for my bank account.

  After reading the experience of Confusedandalone and this thread, there is not much discussion. If my mom would ever return my calls, things might be different. If there were any type of botched familial relationship with my mother things might be different. But she chooses to tow the party line of JW's even encouraging the body of elders to pursue different benign family members for apostasy that have been inactive for over 25 years.

  Interesting that the basic bible principles of love for a stranger on a street are not even applied in a witness family if some chose not to continue drinking the cool aid.
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  A little Update... Going back to school.

  by dazed but not confused in

  1. social
  2. current

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  im going back to school tomorrow.

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  Dazed, that's great news. Thanks for keeping us updated. My wife just finished nursing school, passing the NCLEX test for state licensing. She is waiting on HR to finish their background check for her first job. Keep your grades up on your prerequisites it counts when trying to get into nursing school. Best wishes.
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  I'm not going back...finally

  by lostinthought in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it has been several years since my awakening.

  since then i have stopped pioneering, stopped doing temp work at bethel, stopped field service (at the most, i went out a few hours a month for the last couple of months), my meeting attendance has been around 50 percent or so.

  i have decided not to go back.

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  Hi Lostinthought, thanks for sharing. At first you will cope with guilty feelings, thinking perhaps that your selfish, spiritually weak, etc. You can think yourself through these moments.

  Advise on what to say? I could never "stretch" the truth even if it was for theocratic warfare reasons. Truthful but simple explanations or excuses are the best, and we don't "owe" anyone a full explanation Or at least a full explanation is not recommended if you are trying to stay under the radar.

  What are your reasons for not going back?
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  Another story... possibly final story

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is the exchange of text messages i had with my super spiritual brother.

  it is sad... it is pathetic... it has helped me realize that i have no connection to these people anymore.

  i feel free today.

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  Intersting developments Confused&A. You just got to love a JW family don't ya?
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  Satan must have directed me here

  by Miss.Fit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was telling my jw friend about the condi law suit.

  the first thing she asked was how did i even hear about it because it was news to her .

  ( i was 't expecting that reaction.

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  Miss Fit, you commented, " But in order for Jeovah to protect me I need his spirit which is found at the meetings." You have the JW thinking down!

  I sent a link to a sister and she replied that "one body of elders did not know that he was a pedophile and messed up,... don't give up on God's organization run by imperfect men."

  I've wanted to respond (but need to continue under the radar,)about how it is consistent behavior on the organizations part to treat child abuse allegations in the congregation like they are simply "sins" with the scriptural two witnesses, as opposed to the "crime" that pedophilia is.

  Dan Sidlick gave a talk years ago that said, "If you are sick, go see a doctor, if you have legal problems then contact a lawyer" etc, basically saying the congregation can't do everything. So why is it when an allegation of child abuse is brought before the congregation it is not standard proceedure regardless of whether the individual states require reporting or not, just report it and let the civil authorities take care of it? I cannot explain why they are so resistant to contacting police, other than the obvious.
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  40 years on - and still in Damage Control mode!

  by Bungi Bill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.

  - today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.

  not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.

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  Thanks for sharing Bill. Best wishes and thanks for the personal advice to younger ones to get an education. I'm also impressed that you did not give up when you hit a bump! Go for it.

  I just finished my last class of a four year degree program, It was mostly online. My wife finished an associates degree and is now a RN. We are both around 50 years old. You will do just fine.
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  Publisher Attendance Records

  by Lozza Aussie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was sitting at meeting the other night and happen to notice an elder with a sheet of paper with the title of the above post.

  it appears to have been composed on a computer, not a form printed by the org.

  on it were all the names of the people in this particular elders group and there were columns for the days of the week when we have our meetings.

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  JakeM2012

  I've seen self-made spreadsheets like this before in my congregation. One elder showed me his spreadsheet and it had a year and half of meeting attendance and I had missed 3 meetings total and he told me that my attendance was "fair".

  This is the type of "monitoring" of the congregation that drove me nuts. Brothers with their "dawm" computers who just discovered how to make a spreadsheet think they are doing Jesus a Favor "running" the congregation. Go figure. Small minds building fences.