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  9/15/12 Watchtower: JW Conventions have been held for thousands of years! LOL

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anyone check out the latest study edition of the watchtower?

  the last article is all about how "conventions" have been going on for thousands of years.

  that is a classic.

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  JakeM2012

  "Does anyone think anything in today's a$$emblies is going to end up in the LIE -ble?"

  They are expecting new scrolls to be written imminently. Stay tuned. :D
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  9/15/12 Watchtower: JW Conventions have been held for thousands of years! LOL

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anyone check out the latest study edition of the watchtower?

  the last article is all about how "conventions" have been going on for thousands of years.

  that is a classic.

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  JakeM2012

  Oh, forgive me, they met at the branch; Eve was on tour, and then they both went to a District Convention. Adam had to take a day of vacation from paradise.
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  9/15/12 Watchtower: JW Conventions have been held for thousands of years! LOL

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anyone check out the latest study edition of the watchtower?

  the last article is all about how "conventions" have been going on for thousands of years.

  that is a classic.

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  JakeM2012

  Adam and Eve met at a district convention of Jehovah's Witnesses while doing missionary work. Later they became weak and sinned.
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  Thought Reform and the Psychology of the 'Safeguard Your Heart!' 2012 Convention

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to make attendance at my second district convention "mentally out" both a little more bearable and meaningful, i decided to take some notes of key points as if i were an outsider studying the thought reform methods of jehovah's witnesses.

  at first, i was only going to share these notes with my therapist, but inspired by the "parsing the watchtower double-speak" thread, i figured i would share my amateur analysis with everyone.

  here are some of the highlights:.

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  JakeM2012

  Breakfast of Champions. You obviously ate your Wheaties Saturday morning. An excellent summation of the day, and comment. A few weeks ago my wife, who is out but just does not want to talk about it, said after reading a wt article, that wt doesn't want you to exercise or use any of your God given defense mechanisms, like the conscience, free will, or personal sense of right and wrong.

  So yesterday I read the notes you had taken and your comments so that I could continue the conversation from a few weeks ago. I was thankful in the way that you presented you commentary because it made the conversation easier. We both came to the conclusion that the "everyone is evil that is not a JW" and "if your not for us you are against us" propaganda will eventually lead her family to dissing us.

  Thanks again
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  Magic Mountain and Disney Land soon to be off limits to all JW's!

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  why isn't it off limits if wizards and magic are what god hates???

  the truth is almost every jw has been to magic mountain or disney land/world.

  we went in large groups when i was young.

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  JakeM2012

  I guess I'll have to stop using Miracle Grow on my plants. It's very evil.
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  The GB is Being Careless With People's Lives

  by What Now? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i haven't had much opportunity to be on here lately, except from my phone, which i can't post from.

  but i have actually had chance to sit down at the computer and i wanted to share something.. .

  so my sister has joined a foreign language group.

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  For years, Jehovah's Witnesses have been using the "Tourist Visa" to get their work done without having to go through the proper governmental and embassary protocol. I "volunteered" to go to several Central and South American countries and we were always on tourist visa's because it cost "too" much to get a residency visa or other type of visa. "Tourist" built the branches in central and south america, many times bringing in materials, parts, etc to circumvent customs and tariffs. They would have a local brother take you down to get an extension on the tourist visa and they would lie about what you were doing. If you were caught you were on your own. But they would use you as a mule to carry stuff in and out of the country on your personally paid for air travel ticket. So it didn't cost them anything. Sometimes, you could get 1-3 months on a tourist visa depending on the country. If your time ran out the local branch was reluctant to pay for the cost of leaving the country and returning. The local branch even wanted you to do it on your days off, so you wouldn't miss any work.

  It is all this monopoly shell game and money that was indirectly donated for the cost of travel to build all these branches that they are closing down now. I know that the airfare paid for by brothers providing their own transportation cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for each branch. Now WT is cashing in on those buildings that were built to survive Harmegedon and serve as the center of worship in each of these areas. I assume that with the merging of the central american branches that El Salvador, and Costa Rica are being sold. Does anyone know?

  You might mention that if your sister is a "chosen" delegate, IRS standards indicate that she can deduct alot of the trip. Check the latest tax code.
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  Has the WTB&TS broken copyright/Trade-mark laws with their use of sparlock ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i googled sparlock,i was directed to some companies that traded under that name , so i`m just curious if they have infringed on some laws here.. any legal eagles here that can to shed some light on this ?.

  i`m just curious.. smiddy.

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  Maybe Disney needs to claim copyright laws for WT's copying Kaa the python in Jungle Book written by Rudyard Kipling.
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  Signs of shunning

  by NY23brown in

  1. social
  2. family

  guess my first post won't show up due to ie, so trying again.... .

  wondering what signs to look for if i suspect in-laws are planning to shun my husband.

  he has not been to kh since his teen (20+) years and i am not a jw.

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  I have a very disfunctional family and am being shunned/isolated. Was your husband informed of the work on the family members home? If your husband was able to assist in the process this could be an excellent way to diffuse or interrupt opportunities for conversation that the elder could have with the rest of the family. If your husband was not informed of the work on the families home then the shunning may have already begun. But believe me, when it comes to working on a needy family members home you won't loose any points by working on it or supporting it in some way.. (I am assuming it is the work done is on a member of his family, like a mother or father). I have witness family in-law members and the many of the witness C.O. substitute elders and regular elders will not participate in the maintenance of the mother's home. It has caused problems and resentments even ruining some "friendships". I would think that whatever poison this elder could deliver to your in-laws could be diminished by your families support, even if it is bringing food over for their sustanance. The chain of love can be temporarily interrupted between the borg and redirected to the family loyalties in some of these situations.
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  October 1, 1926 WT on the Prophetic Seven Times of the Gentiles

  by JakeM2012 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that this has been discussed previously about the 607 b.c.e and the 586 b.c.e.

  debate.

  but i found it interesting in the october 1, 1926 wt the quotes under the subheading:.

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  JakeM2012

  I must apologize, this information came from "The Herald of Christ's Kingdom" Vol IX October 1, 1926 no 19 which was written by a splinter group that left the Bible Students when Rutherford took over WTBTS called the Pastoral Bible Institute. I was incorrect to attribute this to Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Sorry about the confusion.
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  October 1, 1926 WT on the Prophetic Seven Times of the Gentiles

  by JakeM2012 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know that this has been discussed previously about the 607 b.c.e and the 586 b.c.e.

  debate.

  but i found it interesting in the october 1, 1926 wt the quotes under the subheading:.

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  JakeM2012

  I bought the PDF's of the Watchtower several years ago and was skimming through the years in my quest for the truth about the truth. I have not verified these quotes with a hard copy of the 1926 WT. Perhaps someone here has access.