New arrangement from C.O.

by Doctor Who in

i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

visit about 2 months ago.

during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

I thought there was a thread on this a few years ago. It changed around 2009?, 2010. From what I got the WTBTS reasoning was that if people didn't come to the kingdom hall personally they couldn't get donations.

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I SAT THROUGH TODAYS WT STUDY WITH A CHEEZER! !

by brandnew in

jw
friends

may 10th, the whole study was about covering up their mistakes, and putting it off on "recent refinements of understandings".. you could just look at the elder on stage and know he was not feelin this study.. when a neewbie answered and said" lots of unexpected changes are happening" i about fell outta my seat !

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JakeM2012

LOL Definition of Chezzer:

chezzer

Noun - A person of below average intelligence, possibly mentally retarded, who has committed a foolhardy act. The term is also often used to describe a chav.

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Did You Feel Bad For the JW Dishwasher-Cook Who Quit His Job (May JW Broadcasting)To Avoid Attending Later Meetings? He Pioneered on Welfare or Unemployment!

by RoyalFlushPhil in

did you watch the story about the jw who was working as a burger boy at some diner and his boss wanted him to work on sunday during the time of his meeting?

this faithful jw decided he could not attend a later meeting (6 pm sunday meeting) and soon quit his job(or got fired to attend his sunday meeting) so he could attend the sunday meeting he was assigned to.

i think he was on welfare because this story states he won't work on sunday morning because that's when his meeting is!

JakeM2012

I have known brothers that threatened to bring the "religious card" into play if their employer wanted them to work hours they personally didn't want to. It wasn't because they had issues with missing the meetings and they did not flip burgers for a living. They just didn't want to work those hours.

I've worked on power outages with Seventh Day Adventist and they say they won't work Saturday, and it is accepted.

The man described in WT video must have just quit. Yep, no unemployment if you quit.

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Seems very easy to leave now, why do people hesitate?

by Xanthippe in

when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .

no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.

still people find it so hard to leave.

JakeM2012

It appears that apathy is a growing problem within the congregations. I make the causative connection with people in the process of "waking up". It is my opinion that the first thing people stop doing when waking up is donating money. They will keep up the appearances of going through the motions for years, but stop donating.

As noted before there are many reasons that people must stay in. As several older friends have said to me, they have "too much invested" to leave. It can be a huge loss in relationships and even financially to leave with the shunning and hatred that is reinforced regularly at meetings, conventions etc. about the mentally diseased apostates or ones who quit believing.

Recently, I went back to my home town and visited with a very select few. The subject of what I was doing in the organization never came up. They didn't ask, and I didn't tell. I don't think they can afford to ask. We were happy to visit one another and enjoy the time together.

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Seems very easy to leave now, why do people hesitate?

by Xanthippe in

when i see people on here saying they've looked on several sites before this one, jwfacts, jwstruggle, youtube, etc., and then they make friends here, sometimes meeting up with ex-jws, it seems incredibly easy compared to leaving in 1989. .

no internet, no amazon to find ex-jw books, no facebook to link up with ex-jw groups.

still people find it so hard to leave.

JakeM2012

Interesting, the perspective of different posters. (I'm not trying to stir anything up here, Please)

DarioKehl thinks that it is impossible to fade

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262050001/theyre-making-impossible-fade

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Today's Watchtower Study, from Feb 15th " Jehovah Guides......."

by BluesBrother in

not a full critique but some points astounded me .

after decades of hearing them say how terrible the "critical times" are that we live in today.

i now hear :.

JakeM2012

"The look I got from the WT conductor was pathetic."

George Orwell > Quotes > Quotable Quote

“The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.”

― George Orwell

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Texan Billboard

by Pubsinger in

didn't the judge rule in the candace conte trial that wts did not have a responsibility to notify the congregation only to protect them?

i think this is hugely missing the point.

other churches and organisations have strict policies to protect members from sex offenders but they do not 'notify' in the sense that i think these people want.. so the wt response to that particular question will be 'no.

JakeM2012

JW elders can leak every other "confidential" subject matter that is considered within so-called "confidential" meetings among the elders, including a boy that seeks an elders help concerning the MA word and ;the involved elders will continue to bring it up years later if the young man is ever considered a servant or an elder. An elder will report when someone brings up his recommendation, "Well, you know a few years ago he had a problem with the MA word." Another elder, "Could a couple of brothers go and ask him if he has self-control now and has conquered the MA word?"

Why is it so hard for these mentally deficient people? Can they reason, that there are times that they could discreetly let the congregation servant body know, and then pull their shunning crap on the accused. I swear, just as they do with the minor incidences like a teenage boy or girl that walked down the hall at school holding hands with a "worldly" boy or girl? and it is reported to the elders then the teenager. The guilty teenager is then shunned by every family in the congregation for years? But NOOOOOOO, "We can't tell anyone about a pediphile, it's confidential". They are just idiots. As Jesus said, they strain out the gnat and gulp down the camel.

Maybe a lawyer needs to establish that there really does not exist any confidentiality what-so-ever or even pastoral confidentiality. When everything else minor is revealed by gossip within the congregation except the dangerous stuff then doesn't the body hold a responsibility? You either have confidentiality or you don't.

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