let the Bible be found true though every man a liar. I believe there is going to be a resurrection. I believe what happened in those near death experiences was a presentation of what those people either consciencely or subconsciencely believed before the experience. If they had trully died, they wouldn't have lived to tell the experience.The life force was still in the body.
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Do you believe that this life is all there is
by Fisherman inthe bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.
what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.
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New and improved?
by tenyearsafter ini have a family member who had been df'ed for 15 years or so...recently they reinstated as a jw.
when i asked what motivated them to make that decision, the response was to be able to see family and old friends.
they insisted that things were different now.
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as to speaking in your own words...you just have to reword what you see...if you veer off topic,you would be roped back in. I just watched a video where a brother brought out a scripture that put what was written in bad light. The WT was wrong and the Scripture was correct...He got a visit letting him know he went against the slave and he couldn't reason with them that the Bible was more important to believe than the GB. He recorded it...it was disgusting. I don't know how elders can conduct that WT study knowing some of errors in it...I quit...I am not promoting lies that I KNOW to be lies.
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Jehovah`s Witness Elders who were Business men in The Congregations I Attended.
by smiddy3 ina number of topics have covered work experiences by members who have encountered crticism for having a full time job .in the last few congregations i had attended this was never an issue as elders had businesses they owned and employed brothers and sisters .. while i personally never worked for a jw, both my young sons did at one time or another and my wife did also .i have always worked full time in secular employment and have never been criticised for doing so .and to my knowledge nobody else ever had that experience.. in the first cong.i attended an po as they were called at the time was an insurance agent and his bro.
was an assistant po also worked with the same ins,agency.. other congs,i attended one elder was an owner of a cabinet making firm while about 3 other different elders were self employed builders who ran their own business and employed others to work for them .. at the same time a couple of ms servants had their own plastering business going on supporting these elders business.. so i`m just wondering whether this is just depending on where you are from in the world and what time period we are talking about.. the time i`m talking about was in the sixties and seventies and the area was in s.e.
qld.
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It occurred to me, that some likely started whatever business so they could have more say over their time-therefore, clearing up time for service. I personally started a little-stayed little- business because it paid me better than minimum wage but not welfare. Mr x worked with me part time. It freed him ...he could aux pioneer and go to all the hall builds -be just a good-ole-boy and come home and rage at me if we didn't have enough money. So I am thinking some started a business so as to preach more and it just grew to the point of employees. I hired a sister once ( part time ) while I was starting out. I was never good enough for her. One day while we were working, she told me I needed to get my priorities straignt. (decode: you are too materialistic and not spiritual )( note: I couldn't afford to keep her hired, but because she depended on the work, I put before myself) I knew where she was going with me not having my priorities straight so I fed it: " Yes, I do. I am going to work hard and get this business off the ground and make lots of money"
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New and improved?
by tenyearsafter ini have a family member who had been df'ed for 15 years or so...recently they reinstated as a jw.
when i asked what motivated them to make that decision, the response was to be able to see family and old friends.
they insisted that things were different now.
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enoughisenough
" seems written for the uneducated" I have found this to be true now for years...It is insulting to most intelligence. What is it-written on a second grade level? Then the updates-the presenters speak like you were talking to 2 year olds. Just my take.
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2022 convention stand-outs, clift notes, comments?? the good, the bad, the ugly...
by enoughisenough inhere is the thing: i tried several times to watch the convention...i just couldn't seem to forge ahead with it.
the reason i wanted to was to be able to engage in conversation about it with some of my old friends that communicate by phone that don't know i have disassociated.
i want to be able to slip in seeds of doubt, but at the same time i have to seem a bit current...) so i welcome to know any take outs, commentary, good or bad, or the video plots, etc.
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" barbecuing steaks" I enlarged the photo and it looks like length wise slices of butternut sqash to me.
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2 outrageous quotes from The WT Society
by GabeAthouse in"can the ethiopian change his skin?
", feb. 15, 1904 watch tower.
we answer, no.
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enoughisenough
a thought while reading the comments: people don't seem to be satisfied with the color of their skin or hair. White people will ruin their health in tanning bed or broiling in the hot sun. At conventions, I would see the white sisters with dark tans . I would see white sisters in black hosiery and I would see black sisters in white hosiery. Some of the white gals had perms that tightly curled their hair while the blacks straigthened their hair. I am not faulting anyone...I love the diversity and see beauty no matter the skin color. I liked a comment from Patti Labelle on racism: we all bleed and we all pee.My grandfather would tell us what our ancestory is: English, Irish, Dutch, and Devil -LOL ///I watched a video yesterday where a youtuber went into the old hidden literature and showed a paragraph ( paraphasing ) that for the most part blacks were uneducated and couldn't understand the literature, so in only special circumstance should they have it because if was too valuable for to be wasted on them.
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Bring on the YOUNG elders
by enoughisenough inthere seems to be a push to fast track the younger men to become elders.
beings jesus was 30 when he took up his ministry, i would think that would sort of be an age gauge...the older men were to have their children in subjection, so some were old enough to have children that were old enough to want to rebel.
( that's my slant ) how will the ones who have been jw for years respond to being counseled by those younger than some of their grandchildren?
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there seems to be a push to fast track the younger men to become Elders. Beings Jesus was 30 when he took up his ministry, I would think that would sort of be an age gauge...The older men were to have their children in subjection, so some were old enough to have children that were old enough to want to rebel.( that's my slant ) How will the ones who have been JW for years respond to being counseled by those younger than some of their grandchildren?
Besides all JW know what to do to solve their problems: read the Bible, pray, go to meetings, preach and obey the GB.
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Have you driven in a country that drives on the opposite side of the road?
by FondaCox indid you drive?
if so, how nerve wracking was it for you?
i'd be terrified i'd stop concentrating for a moment and out of habit make a right turn at a red light into oncoming traffic.
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I personally drove on the wrong side( sort of) of the road once. It was very strange. There was a gas station not far from my home, I bought gas, and when I pulled out of the station onto the road, I literally could not remember which side of the road to drive on. My thought was I don't have far to go and I will just straddle the road and get out of the way if a car is coming towards me. Very odd...I was in my 20's.
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Have you driven in a country that drives on the opposite side of the road?
by FondaCox indid you drive?
if so, how nerve wracking was it for you?
i'd be terrified i'd stop concentrating for a moment and out of habit make a right turn at a red light into oncoming traffic.
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I was a passenger in the Virgin Islands...we rented a vehicle to traverse St Johns...One fellow drove in the morning and Mr x was teasing him about his driving...all in good fun. Well booze was cheap enough and by dark, the morning driver who had been drinking on and off all day wasn't a safe bet on the driving. So Mr x drove to our lodging and the morning driver was making fun and mocking his driving but in a malicious way. ( I called him out on it and told him to apolgise to Mr x, which he said he would but never did. ) (4 of us had gone to St. Thomas to work and I had negotiated the job and was responsible for the others- and I really did have to baby sit 3 adults!-another story!) -
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2022 convention stand-outs, clift notes, comments?? the good, the bad, the ugly...
by enoughisenough inhere is the thing: i tried several times to watch the convention...i just couldn't seem to forge ahead with it.
the reason i wanted to was to be able to engage in conversation about it with some of my old friends that communicate by phone that don't know i have disassociated.
i want to be able to slip in seeds of doubt, but at the same time i have to seem a bit current...) so i welcome to know any take outs, commentary, good or bad, or the video plots, etc.
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The Sunday morning symposium where they were so Covid afraid was ridiculous. Covid is done. why show things like that?
I watched that clip...I saw the emotional blackmail... what I also saw and heard was follow Jehovah's direction --they put that out there like the masking came from Jehovah when it was secular organizations and some even overstepping their boundaries...