I have thought about Mormons: how does anyone go along with those teachings. I thought the same about Catholics and their "worship" of the pope. Scientology has a huge following with their bizarre set of beliefs...I could go on and on....I didn't see the connection that I was one who was also following men...( this faithful slave ) If there are some PIMI reading these posts, be sure and tell your students what they are really getting into when you are encouraging them to be baptised.
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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the words "spirit directed" have been taken out of the oath. Not sure when. If the wording was changed so as to prevent legal actions against them, then they had to have known they weren't doing something right. I remember when they df someone they announce that the person no longer had conduct befitting a Christian.
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Please listen to this song
by Aroq indoes this song resonate with anyone?
it does me, no curse words.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zonn0pxguc.
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enoughisenough
Spot on!
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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BettyHumpter ....
The introduction of the second baptismal question - “Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization - was designed by watchtower lawyers. The watchtower introduced this question to protect themselves legally in case of lawsuit from those who become subject to their shunning policies and seeks to restrain them. It was simply design in such a way that members cannot simply leave them without either being disfellowshipped or disassociated, with the whole object of humiliating any that leaves and shunning them.
It is interesting to note that those Jehovah’s Witnesses who were never administered the 1985 question can leave the organization without them forcing their shunning policies on them. The individual simple needs to remind the elders that they never told the 1985 oaths. ( copied and Pasted)If I had read that before, I would not have written a disassociation letter. You can't make people be friendly towards you, but you may be able to keep them from shunning you. I would have come up with a different strategy. ( not sure what and it doesn't matter now )
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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foolednomore, what makes you think it isn't enforced? they can kick you out if you don't abide by the rules. If you disassociate, the R and F treat you like scum...the only way to get out unscathed is to fade, which if you stay in the same place isn't that easy.( watched a video the other day of an old sister, who didn't go to the invited judicial meeting and later learned she had been df. The way I read it is those who got baptized 1985 and after unquittedly accepted a legal agreement with the JW-accepting the practices of JW.
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enoughisenough
how come?
There will be a good reason why the top picture is wrong, but the bottom one is fine to do....
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enoughisenough
HOW Come>There will be a good reason why the top picture is wrong, but the bottom one is fine to do....
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"a picture says a thousand words" ---I never did like the blue Org sign on KH signs and buildings. And I never liked the badge ( buttons) people wore...reminded me of people in Christendom wearing crosses....you shouldn't need a badge or piece of jewelry to let people know you are a Christian... back to your bottom pic....that is as disgusting as the top one.
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First Day of Returning to D2D Work
by Foolednomore inthis is the first day of the return to the d2d work, no one in the strip opened their doors or gates.
what a waste of time!.
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I bet a lot won't be answering the doors. Likely during lockdown and just being afraid to go out in general, they entertained themselves online and saw news articles on child abuse, maybe stumbled into some ex JW sites...in other words, they are more educated than ever against JWs. The JWs have brought reproach!
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Wife's gone to visit distant relatives.......
by BoogerMan in......so i thought i'd treat myself; i placed an order with the acme escort agency.. damn it, they only had a fiesta available!.
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bsmart-I knew it was about cars--but...I also knew a person who made what seemed like innocent jokes ( a wee bit suggestive ) who was just "telegraphing" what he was really about. Example: He would introduce his wife: this is (name), my first wife. He went on to shack up with other women and marry some of them.