Bartolomeo, don't you mean you are angry at Jehovah ?...after all if you believe that the GB are the faithful slave, then you have to believe that Jehovah or Jesus ( as brought out in the 7/22 WT study article ) directed the way they handle the pandemic to keep everyone safe( how do you separate it?). The recent convention even reinforced it all with the "mask" drama, and telling the sheep they HAD to obey Jehovah or his spokes people here on earth-the GB. So either Jehovah directed them or he didn't. If he didn't ( and why would he direct such a murderous vx?) isn't it safe to say the GB are FRAUDS? I for one had enough of the GB saying Jehovah caused or directed this or that when he clearly didn't and the changing of "present truth" ( lies) to "new light" ( more lies) If Jehovah were really directing the GB, they would always publish truth! As far as the pandemic is concerned, they clearly got their information from worldly sources ( not devine one ) and even in advance of some of the world in general's edicts.( I find that strange ) If you speak against the way the GB handle it inside the congregation, you are speaking against the GB and you will be soon have your attitude adjusted.
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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one
by Mikejw inhere in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
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Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?
by BettyHumpter inwhat i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.
in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.
yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.
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I have thought about Mormons: how does anyone go along with those teachings. I thought the same about Catholics and their "worship" of the pope. Scientology has a huge following with their bizarre set of beliefs...I could go on and on....I didn't see the connection that I was one who was also following men...( this faithful slave ) If there are some PIMI reading these posts, be sure and tell your students what they are really getting into when you are encouraging them to be baptised.
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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the words "spirit directed" have been taken out of the oath. Not sure when. If the wording was changed so as to prevent legal actions against them, then they had to have known they weren't doing something right. I remember when they df someone they announce that the person no longer had conduct befitting a Christian.
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Please listen to this song
by Aroq indoes this song resonate with anyone?
it does me, no curse words.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zonn0pxguc.
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enoughisenough
Spot on!
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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BettyHumpter ....
The introduction of the second baptismal question - “Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization - was designed by watchtower lawyers. The watchtower introduced this question to protect themselves legally in case of lawsuit from those who become subject to their shunning policies and seeks to restrain them. It was simply design in such a way that members cannot simply leave them without either being disfellowshipped or disassociated, with the whole object of humiliating any that leaves and shunning them.
It is interesting to note that those Jehovah’s Witnesses who were never administered the 1985 question can leave the organization without them forcing their shunning policies on them. The individual simple needs to remind the elders that they never told the 1985 oaths. ( copied and Pasted)If I had read that before, I would not have written a disassociation letter. You can't make people be friendly towards you, but you may be able to keep them from shunning you. I would have come up with a different strategy. ( not sure what and it doesn't matter now )
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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foolednomore, what makes you think it isn't enforced? they can kick you out if you don't abide by the rules. If you disassociate, the R and F treat you like scum...the only way to get out unscathed is to fade, which if you stay in the same place isn't that easy.( watched a video the other day of an old sister, who didn't go to the invited judicial meeting and later learned she had been df. The way I read it is those who got baptized 1985 and after unquittedly accepted a legal agreement with the JW-accepting the practices of JW.
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how come?
There will be a good reason why the top picture is wrong, but the bottom one is fine to do....
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HOW Come>There will be a good reason why the top picture is wrong, but the bottom one is fine to do....
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"a picture says a thousand words" ---I never did like the blue Org sign on KH signs and buildings. And I never liked the badge ( buttons) people wore...reminded me of people in Christendom wearing crosses....you shouldn't need a badge or piece of jewelry to let people know you are a Christian... back to your bottom pic....that is as disgusting as the top one.
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First Day of Returning to D2D Work
by Foolednomore inthis is the first day of the return to the d2d work, no one in the strip opened their doors or gates.
what a waste of time!.
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I bet a lot won't be answering the doors. Likely during lockdown and just being afraid to go out in general, they entertained themselves online and saw news articles on child abuse, maybe stumbled into some ex JW sites...in other words, they are more educated than ever against JWs. The JWs have brought reproach!