I wonder if they destroy all intro letters after 5 years ( as I gathered somewhere along the way) then they would just have the overlapping one ( haha ) to pass on. Personally I don't think it is justice that there are letters passed around about you and you aren't allowed to know what it is. ( but what leg do you have to stand on it you agreed to the oath you took if baptized after 1985? One brother I knew of later became secretary in a new congregation and read the horrid things written about him.
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How would you get a hold of your own Introduction Letter
by Foolednomore ini'm sure there is some unflattering things mentioned in my family 's introduction letter.
how would one get a copy of it?
i'm sure law suits will happen.
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Breaking news. Masks
by road to nowhere inupdated.
october 1 no more strongly encouraged.
just regular now?.
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BettyHumpter....I do watch some conspiracy theories...Some are quite interesting...can't be proved or disproved PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DISPROVE ANY CONSPIRACY THAT YOU THINK I MAY BELIEVE... However, a lot of what you may consider conspiracies are not conspiracy but are presented by accredited professionals who know what they are talking about and have evidence and data as back up Some people are brave enough to go out on a limb, to speak against the present agendas so as to warn people. Some things are called conspiracy by the mainstream media and even JWs as conspiracy because they want to discredit the presenters....they don't want their lies exposed. Then there are some things that people consider conspiracy that the powers that be have published for the world to see, but they don't look at it and when/if they do, they don't believe it.
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Latest jw broadcast referring to allegations of protecting pedophiles
by jonahstourguide inhi folks.. i put this in abuse as i thought it relevant.. a physically in mentally out friend that considers our friendship greater than religion told me that on the latest broadcast steven lett alluded to satans voice being behind people that claim the organisation protects pedophiles.. my friend then went on to say they must be in damage control.. he added, but that is correct, they are hiding their internal records.
is not that construed as protecting the accused?.
if i get the inclination i may post a snippet of what was actually said.. sadly my friend is trying to protect his family relationships and so goes along with the charade.. his situation weighs on me but, as many of you here know, it can be a difficult road to travel.. jtg.
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I sent a friend of mine emails linking the clip of Lett ( that is in this discussion) I also sent a linked news article about the Lawyers being sanctioned for mispresenting ( lies) and then a link to the court's judgement where Brumbly was found in the wrong. I got back and email not to send anything more! I had been sending some other errors I found in what WT says and the attitude was, they aren't inspired and I am sorry you have doubts. Conclusion: people are deluded and love the lies! Once in a phone conversation I said how we had been preaching lies to people and their attitude : it was not lies--we just hadn't new light yet. It is all so disgusting!
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1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today
by enoughisenough ini am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
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it is safe to say there isn't full disclosure or no one would get baptized into the organization. They think they are getting baptized in the name of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit...( maybe if they have seen a baptism before hand...but would they actually be paying attention to the meaning of the words?) It is interesting how you hear and see things differently once you become "awake" to the game.
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Breaking news. Masks
by road to nowhere inupdated.
october 1 no more strongly encouraged.
just regular now?.
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I have been trying to remember an article in the WT or AWake,(or maybe something else ) where in before the "pandemic", the artwork showed people wearing mask....Anyway, my thought later was this was a sort of preprogramming...( like they knew in advance what was coming ) I mentioned it to a sister that it appeared they knew in advance and she said yeah ( missing the point )-like Jehovah gave them that knowlegde. I want to review that photo or artwork and the timing I thought it was on the cover of a magazine, but a search of the covers of late 2019 covers and 2020 didn't reveal what I was looking for. ( or I missed it. ) ( The point of this is, I think they knew this whole scamdemic was about to roll out. They even did their own shut down before the states- -no field service, meetings ( what better way to convince the sheep they have special insight ) Am I the only one who smells a rat here? And look at the leverage they had to make sure some in other places got the jabs in a timely fashion-they made brags about that? Anyway, I am inclined to think they are getting information from a higher source and it isn't from Almighty God. If anyone knows of that artwork I am thinking of, I hope you post it.
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Is This New?
by Lost in the fog init is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.
going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.
but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!
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I wonder what would have happened if I would have told of the numerous times I saw and elder's wife pinching the behind of another elder ( all in good fun, of course-though it did seem brazen ) ( then the question becomes, if a person is so brazen to behave so in plain view, what may be going on out of sight? hmmm! ) Something else I saw was the same elder who was getting his behind pinched,pinched a hired painter who was on a ladder and said woo-who! The painter looked rather shocked.
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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?
by enoughisenough in12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?
to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.
as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.
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smiles- do you have something better and more concrete to offer ?
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story: a few years back, 2 sisters were do cart work at a festival. They sat in two chairs fairly close together for the most part while they waited and watched for interest in the literature. So one of the sisters had gotten up to talk to someone and a lesbian approached and wanted to sit in the empty chair because she had assumed she had met one of her own kind. The sister told her she could sit and attempted to witness to her. The lesbian finially went and got her girlfriend and introduced her to the witness telling her they were J W.
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I knew a witness man who was gay and when the person at the door said they were gay, he told them he was too. ( nothing like getting on common ground ) I don't know if he ever called back on them or not. I think he wanted to. ( he liked being around other gay men ) I will tell you a sad commentary about this man ( now passed away) He said he couldn't have men friends or he was suspect and he couldn't have women friends or he was suspect. He married and it messed his head up so bad, he couldn't live with her. They remained friends until he died and in the mean time, he was living in another state from his wife and the unmarried sisters in the congregation were falling all over themselves to get his attention...( he had a small business and they would come and work for free ( under the guise of learning his trade )so as to be around him He wasn't divorced ( didn't want to ) Maybe they thought she would die and they would be a shoo in. One of said sisters was a pioneer and when he died she went to get a kitchen table from his rental and the landlord told her it belonged to him and she told him she wasn't leaving without the table because she had shared many meals with him at that table. The landlord said he would never step foot into the KH again after the way the horrid woman acted.
in answer to the questiion about the door mat, if he/she is gay, he will stay! Actually I think most would feel like they should try to "save" them.
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Smoking gun GB can’t get out of this one
by Mikejw inhere in 2022 if anyone says anything against the vaccines even a little bit you are almost apostate.. someone once mentioned all vaccinated sports stars collapsing and someone else said not to speak badly about the gb or by extension jehovah.. the gb can’t get out of this one, it’s gone too far.
it’s now the case that if you speak against the vaccines you are speaking against the gb and by extension jehovah .
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enoughisenough
Anony Mous...". safe solutions such as remdesivir" I beg to differ where this drug is concerned...it is part of the killer protocol used in the hospitals --according to the Drs. I have watched, it works something like this-it causes kidney injury, so the patient ends up with fluid in their lungs, so they sedate patient and put them on ventilator -the overall percentage of those who go on he ventilator die. There have been people who checked into a hospital for some other reason, been given a covid test (which are not designed to diagnose and give false positives ) so they declare they have covid,give the protocol by Fauci ( remdesivir and ventilator ) and they die.
Polio: from the Times of India , Oct 15 NEW DELHI: At least three batches of polio vaccines containing contaminated polio 2 virus and given to children