this explores why they can claim to be in charge of all of the master's belonging. So Scholar and Fisherman can brush up on the issue before they respond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOrlV8dB0Y0 short on time, start about timeline 27
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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?
by Vanderhoven7 inif there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.
i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.
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JW Broadcasting - simply a platform for narcissists?
by eyeslice inone thing i notice from sitting through a number of broadcasts is just how much these guys love their titles.
it's always brother such-and-such, member of the gb, helper to the teaching committee, etc.
it's never simply brother such-and-such, a local elder with such-and-such congregation.. it seems to me the witnesses are pretty quick to pick up on catholics who call their priests father, which at the end of the day is in much the same vein simply a title.. i suspect these titles point to a huge amount of narcissism of the part of those who revel in such titles, certainly it doesn't seem to fall in line with christ's advocation that the greatest amongst you should be be the least.
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smiddy3, the jury isn't in on whether that is Jesus or not. I enlarged the pic on my computer and can't be definitive. I don't know if there is someone there or if it is part of the enlightened throne.--very obscure. If you are correct, Jesus should be on our left in the pic as they have Jehovah facing us---right? --because Jesus is supposed to be sitting at God's right hand.
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burning another bridge
by enoughisenough ini feel like i am burning another "friend" bridge.
i just can't seem to keep the lies the wt prints to myself!
i don't know how the pimo do it!
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I am appreciating the fine comments here! No ThomasMore, I didn't think you critical. I think most of us on this forum have come to learn the waste of time, money, and energy we expended for WT. I don't consider it all a waste, but the most of it...and I have a story ( book actually ) I could write about how in the end my life and my best friend's life was turned upside down because we thought what the JW taught was correct and didn't want to become adversely judged. It literally resulted in me being homeless for a short spell. So I would love to see people free from the hypocrisy.
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burning another bridge
by enoughisenough ini feel like i am burning another "friend" bridge.
i just can't seem to keep the lies the wt prints to myself!
i don't know how the pimo do it!
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ThomasMore, I know that sooner or later, they will be a loss...sooner or later, they will figure out I have left the JW or someone will tell them...In the meantime, I have tried to point to the lies! I left on my own, but I do appreciate that there are ex JW out here trying to help others cope and reinforce their decision to walk away, letting them know they aren't crazy or alone.
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I decided to Start a New Religion Since It's a Fun Way To Control People and Make Lots Of Money.
by new boy inthe new year is a good time to start things up.
so please help me decide which one of these two thought systems i should start.
i was thinking of two different types.
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the televangelists are making millions with their prosperity message...you could try that. Tell people to give you money and they will get more money and when they do, they can give you more of their more money. Need I say more? You may have to have a few paid "sick" actors so you have heal them.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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Phizzy, TonusOH,where do you think the moral compass came from? The Bible refers to it as "God's Law"
Romans 2:15, NLT: They demonstrate that God's law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right
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burning another bridge
by enoughisenough ini feel like i am burning another "friend" bridge.
i just can't seem to keep the lies the wt prints to myself!
i don't know how the pimo do it!
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I feel like I am burning another "friend" bridge. I just can't seem to keep the lies the WT prints to myself! i don't know how the PIMO do it! So I got a message of angry face and being told person didn't want me sending anything more. The offense was the picture from the WT that didn't have Jesus in it. Person says Jesus isn't part of God's earthly organization and I don't know how that works if Jesus in the "head" of the congregations. I hat to lose friends, but are they really friends if you can't share with them what is important? It soon becomes you have nothing really in common with them.
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I decided to Start a New Religion Since It's a Fun Way To Control People and Make Lots Of Money.
by new boy inthe new year is a good time to start things up.
so please help me decide which one of these two thought systems i should start.
i was thinking of two different types.
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newboy...Maybe you should just go out and dig up some golden tablets and show those around. That should get attention.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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so it all came about and us too by an accident or big boom and we are accountable to nothing or no one. How does that make you feel to know that you can do whatever you like and never have to be accountable? ( oh, but you have a conscience!-but surely that would get in the way of science! ) ( just want to add that many have died and become disabled these past 2 years because they were told to trust the science!)
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JW Broadcasting - simply a platform for narcissists?
by eyeslice inone thing i notice from sitting through a number of broadcasts is just how much these guys love their titles.
it's always brother such-and-such, member of the gb, helper to the teaching committee, etc.
it's never simply brother such-and-such, a local elder with such-and-such congregation.. it seems to me the witnesses are pretty quick to pick up on catholics who call their priests father, which at the end of the day is in much the same vein simply a title.. i suspect these titles point to a huge amount of narcissism of the part of those who revel in such titles, certainly it doesn't seem to fall in line with christ's advocation that the greatest amongst you should be be the least.
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FedUpJW....I think she got it wrong. We see 2 angels out front so to speak. I think they represent the angels describe at REV 14:
6And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; 7and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”
8And another angel, a second one, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who has made all the nations drink of the wine of the passion of her immorality.”
Why isn't Jesus in the picture? found that answer?:
- This Is the Day of Salvation! (10 occurrences)
10. To whom did Jehovah commit the ministry of reconciliation, and what have they done to carry it out?
10 Jehovah has committed the ministry of reconciliation to the anointed, so Paul could say: “We are therefore ambassadors substituting for Christ, as though God were making entreaty through us.////////// Jesus isn't in the pic because the GB are his substitute! (HUBRIS!) ( some of us know they worded 2 Cor 5:20 to support they are Christ's substitutes. It reads in NWT Therefore, we are ambassadors, substituting for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us. As SUBSTITUTES for Christ, we beg:"Become reconciled to God."
- w98 12/15 pp. 15-20 - The Watchtower—1998