Posts by enoughisenough

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Conditions of Watchtower Baptism

by Vanderhoven7 in

i understand that there are 80 to 100 questions that would-be witnesses must answer correctly before they can be considered eligible for "christian baptism".

however i have noticed that none of the questions relate to the 607destruction, the 1914 invisible presence and enthronement, or even the 1919 appointment of the faithful slave.. now some may feel my question is ridiculous, but bear with me.. will jehovah's witnesses baptize someone who answers all 100 questions satisfactorily, but rejects 607, 1914 and 1919 and the events the watchtower associates with these dates if they agree not to express their rejection to others?.

your thoughts....

enoughisenough

more questions that should be asked: do you understand that we expect you to denouce your former religion, at least some of your friends and family and become part of God's organization with a worldwide circle of friends and family...but if you decide for you no longer want to be a JW, your new friends and family in the org will kick you to the curb and have nothing to do with you because you have become a filthy apostate?

Do you understand that by being baptized, acknowledging that you are part of Jehovah's organization, you have entered into a legal contract with the JW org?

Do you understand that your spirituality will be judged by how many hours you report for service... and it will effect if and when you have priviledges, if you are invited to certain functions?

Do you understand that you can't question the GB, even if what they teach you goes against the scriptures or else you will be kicked out and are deserving of death ( see Walsh Trial held in Scotland 1954 -statements made under oath are still current from where I am sitting ) ( I am sure I could think of more--people don't get full disclosure during bible studies )

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Useless Majors

by Sea Breeze in

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i was passing through a very liberal college town recently during rush hour.

so, i decided to stop for some refreshment at a fine-looking establishment and wait for traffic to die down.

a young waitress waited on me who probably could have been stevie nicks twin when she was young.

enoughisenough

seabreeze...youtube channel, the blue envelope did a video showing income by religion...yeah, he shows you where they are...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22vModQHjOA

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Dumb 'experiences' you were told as a JW

by BettyHumpter in

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this one stands out in my mind.

it was reported that 'a brother', unnamed of course, was out in field service and was set upon by a pack of vicious dogs.

he made it back to the car and was injured quite badly with his arms, hands and leg bleeding heavily.

enoughisenough

a funny story my dearly departed told: He was the driver in a car group and they went up to a home with no easy space to turn and leave...There was a wooden garage there that was open and it seems advantageous to pull into the garage ( I might have known once why the group thought this good idea, but it has left me ) So they pull into the wooden garage and their car breaks through the old wooden flooring and they are stuck! Eventually the homeowner comes and finds them in this precarious situation...he didn't seem to hold it against them--so it ended OK

Then there is the funny story of a Mr X who went to a woman's door. you went up some steps on the end of a longish porch and walked across it to get to the door. The woman came to the door and was very nasty so as to run him off. So he is almost to the end of the porch when she calls for him to go back over to her-which he did. She said to him, " I just wanted to see if you were stupid enough to come back".

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Dumb 'experiences' you were told as a JW

by BettyHumpter in

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this one stands out in my mind.

it was reported that 'a brother', unnamed of course, was out in field service and was set upon by a pack of vicious dogs.

he made it back to the car and was injured quite badly with his arms, hands and leg bleeding heavily.

enoughisenough

at a convention, we were told about a sister who had a fulltime job, 5 children and pioneered...( I'm thinking something has to give--)( when would there be time for the children, for housekeeping?- kids were looking after each other and doing the cooking and cleaning???) And the Bible tells us not to be comparing ourselves with others, but for what reason would the WT have such an experience if not to cause you to compare yourself and guilt-trip you?

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vaxxed and blood transfusions

by enoughisenough in

some did the vaccines..some didn't...some will accept a blood transfusion, some won't ...here is something to consider if you didn't want the vaccines, but you would accept a transfusion.

i was reading comments from the "world" in under a video i had watched ( see link,) one of the comments ( have to scroll a good ways to find the comments about it ) is to the effect, they don't separate what blood came from those vaxxed and those who weren't ...so if you get a transfusion, you are getting the vaxx tainted blood.

"good health to you".

enoughisenough

neat blue dog..... "The two don't even relate." I would agree the two should not relate, but beings so many have the mRNA injections which have already killed and injured many and the unknown longer term side effects, given one doesn't know whether you would be getting the mRNA in a transfusion or not, it seems to me it would be another factor to consider when considering your medical options.

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Who’s gonna mow your grass

by solomon in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixc6aqrozq.

what most jehovah’s witnesses don’t realize about their version of the new system is who’s gonna mow the grass?.

after the system is destroyed who’s gonna make that nail your pounding with a hammer?

enoughisenough

you won't need to mow the grass...the lions will be eating it as the bulls ( just making this up as i go! ) ( I would be willing to barter some sewing for grass mowing )

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question/s for the PIMO

by enoughisenough in

to maintain the facade of being a jw, when doing the ministry, are you not advocating for the gb?

the bible studies, after all are to get people to understand they can't gain life without the "faithful slave" ( you have to be baptized as jw to survive) .how does it make you feel?

if you are parroting an answer in a paragraph that you know is wrong, how does it make you feel?

enoughisenough

I watched the video about the woman who was DF without proper meetings and notice. When I was thinking about just fading slowly, I also thought that sooner or later they would be showing up trying to "snatch me from a perceived fire." , so I decided to make if official...others have a more complicated situation than I did...( and whereas the sister in the video didn't seem to be "talking out of school" to others, I was vocal about the scriptures that were being twisted to support the vaxx. ( in fact, within a couple of months before I wrote my letter, a couple of elders did call me to "get to know me better"....I felt like why now after over 10 years.)

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vaxxed and blood transfusions

by enoughisenough in

some did the vaccines..some didn't...some will accept a blood transfusion, some won't ...here is something to consider if you didn't want the vaccines, but you would accept a transfusion.

i was reading comments from the "world" in under a video i had watched ( see link,) one of the comments ( have to scroll a good ways to find the comments about it ) is to the effect, they don't separate what blood came from those vaxxed and those who weren't ...so if you get a transfusion, you are getting the vaxx tainted blood.

"good health to you".

enoughisenough

Some did the vaccines..Some didn't...Some will accept a blood transfusion, some won't ...here is something to consider if you didn't want the vaccines, but you would accept a transfusion. I was reading comments from the "world" in under a video I had watched ( see link,) One of the comments ( have to scroll a good ways to find the comments about it ) is to the effect, they don't separate what blood came from those vaxxed and those who weren't ...So if you get a transfusion, you are getting the vaxx tainted blood. "good health to you". https://www.bitchute.com/video/xZ05Y6h8Ytpr/

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Dispute resolved over gift shop for Jehovah’s Witnesses

by was a new boy in

background:.

https://westfaironline.com/105235/partners-fighting-over-gift-shop-for-jehovahs-witnesses/.

'a jehovah’s witness who partnered with a couple he trusted based on their shared faith is suing them over ownership of a religion-themed gift shop in orange county.. greg holland of victoria, british columbia, claims in a federal lawsuit that thomas and nanci matos of pine bush, coerced him into relinquishing his property.. “through deceit and intimidation, the matoses stole holland’s investment and interest in ministry ideaz llc,” the complaint states.

enoughisenough

I personally always had a bad taste in my mouth for businesses like his. It seems there was another such business years ago before ministry ideaz. Here is why I didn't like it: the idea was to profit off of what one considered their worldwide brothers and sisters. (that isn't horrible as we all need to make a living, but it was a targotted group ) The other thing is, it seemed sort of a "clout " in the congregations--keeping up with the Jones. I think some liked to sport the products because it made them seem more theocratic...special literature bags, special time keeping book, special book markers, whatever...Anyway, to me it was an exploitation on the end of the sellar and a showy display on the buyer's end. I never personally bought anything, but I was given a Bible with the song, and reasoning book all bound together. So anyway, some made a point of having all their books rebound. ("look what I can afford!" ) It seemed there was some unspoken rule, that if you were anybody in the JW, you would be carrying specific bags, etc. I wonder if anyone else ever felt that way.

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Does Religion have any place in the modern world?

by Fisherman in

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ceremoneys, costumes, spending time in church listenning the same thing again and again, forced to believe in things that cannot be proven.

code or mindset that seperates you from others, wars, violence,....

enoughisenough

WTWizard reminded me of the serpent in the garden. There seems to be something innate in man that makes him want to worship some god or other...even if it is a piece of wood they carve and say it is their god, so I don't think religion is going away.