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  1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

  by enoughisenough in

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  i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

  i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

  in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

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  enoughisenough

  BettyHumpter ....

  
  The introduction of the second baptismal question - “Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization - was designed by watchtower lawyers. The watchtower introduced this question to protect themselves legally in case of lawsuit from those who become subject to their shunning policies and seeks to restrain them. It was simply design in such a way that members cannot simply leave them without either being disfellowshipped or disassociated, with the whole object of humiliating any that leaves and shunning them.
  
  It is interesting to note that those Jehovah’s Witnesses who were never administered the 1985 question can leave the organization without them forcing their shunning policies on them. The individual simple needs to remind the elders that they never told the 1985 oaths. ( copied and Pasted)

  If I had read that before, I would not have written a disassociation letter. You can't make people be friendly towards you, but you may be able to keep them from shunning you. I would have come up with a different strategy. ( not sure what and it doesn't matter now )
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  1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

  i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

  in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

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  foolednomore, what makes you think it isn't enforced? they can kick you out if you don't abide by the rules. If you disassociate, the R and F treat you like scum...the only way to get out unscathed is to fade, which if you stay in the same place isn't that easy.( watched a video the other day of an old sister, who didn't go to the invited judicial meeting and later learned she had been df. The way I read it is those who got baptized 1985 and after unquittedly accepted a legal agreement with the JW-accepting the practices of JW.
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  Wow. I remember this picture.

  by greenhornet in

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  enoughisenough

  how come?

  There will be a good reason why the top picture is wrong, but the bottom one is fine to do....
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  Wow. I remember this picture.

  by greenhornet in

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  HOW Come>There will be a good reason why the top picture is wrong, but the bottom one is fine to do....
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  Wow. I remember this picture.

  by greenhornet in

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  "a picture says a thousand words" ---I never did like the blue Org sign on KH signs and buildings. And I never liked the badge ( buttons) people wore...reminded me of people in Christendom wearing crosses....you shouldn't need a badge or piece of jewelry to let people know you are a Christian... back to your bottom pic....that is as disgusting as the top one.
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  First Day of Returning to D2D Work

  by Foolednomore in

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  this is the first day of the return to the d2d work, no one in the strip opened their doors or gates.

  what a waste of time!.

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  I bet a lot won't be answering the doors. Likely during lockdown and just being afraid to go out in general, they entertained themselves online and saw news articles on child abuse, maybe stumbled into some ex JW sites...in other words, they are more educated than ever against JWs. The JWs have brought reproach!
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  Wife's gone to visit distant relatives.......

  by BoogerMan in

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  ......so i thought i'd treat myself; i placed an order with the acme escort agency.. damn it, they only had a fiesta available!.

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  bsmart-I knew it was about cars--but...I also knew a person who made what seemed like innocent jokes ( a wee bit suggestive ) who was just "telegraphing" what he was really about. Example: He would introduce his wife: this is (name), my first wife. He went on to shack up with other women and marry some of them.
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  Wife's gone to visit distant relatives.......

  by BoogerMan in

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  ......so i thought i'd treat myself; i placed an order with the acme escort agency.. damn it, they only had a fiesta available!.

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  the sad thing is, if one agrees with " out of the heart's abundance, the mouth speaks"- ( or stretching it to the hand types"), I see no funny haha here.
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  Does anyone know why the quote function doesnt always work?

  by BettyHumpter in

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  or perhaps i'm doing something wrong?

  oftentimes if i try to quote someone so that it's highlighted in yellow, after i submit my comments, the quote remains but my comments are gone.

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  experiment because I don't know how to use the quotes....edit , I figured it out. I copied and pasted what I wanted and then followed the advice below. ( thanks)

  I find the best way to use the quote function is after you complete your post. Then go to the quoted parts, highlight them and then click on the quote function. That way you will not lose anything."
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  2022-Secret Watchtower Disfellowshipping Reference Manual.

  by Atlantis in

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  massive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.

  found in the casefile in norway.

  meant to be secret.. .

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  enoughisenough

  I scan read a few pages and one thing that could get you disfellowshipped was joining an organization that didn't hold to JW standards...but it was ok for them to join the UN?? I saw a post somewhere while they are no longer members of the UN, they have a membership in another group of nations( maybe not explaining that correctly.)