Posts by enoughisenough

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Did the ransom sacrifice even work?

by Sharpie in

shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.

as per doctrine.

is still alive in heaven right now correct?

enoughisenough

one thing I think sure is if you think it isn't working, doesn't work, never ever worked...then in your behalf, it won't work. reference John 3:16

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How did you find Jehovah's Witness meetings?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i personally have only attended a handful of meetings at kingdom halls.

i did not enjoy any of them nor was i impressed by anything that was conveyed.

perhaps others did not find them boring as i did.. nadia viotto has this to say about her experience.

in order to pay attention: sat near front and took notes. It was boring because it was the same talks and topics rehashed over and over. Only actually had conversations about a half dozen+- before/after meetings. Rarely looked at the material before meetings, because that would make them more boring. ( If I knew what it was all going to be about, why go and sit through it?) ( of course you hoped no one would notice you hadn't marked any answers because you knew you would be judged adversely for having not studied.)

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God Talks to Himself in the Trinity Bible

by BoogerMan in

psalm 110:1 (niv) “the lord says to my lord: “sit at my right hand until i make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”” .

psalm 110:1 (trv) “the lord god almighty says to a third of himself: “sit at my/our right hands until i make our/your enemies a footstool for our/your feet.”” (but don't tell the other third) .

enoughisenough

New American Standard Bible
Jesus, knowing that the Father had handed all things over to Him, and that He had come forth from God and was going back to God John 13:3

God not only talks to himself in the trinity Bible, but he hands over all things to himself, He came from himself and he is going back to himself. GOT THAT! Clear as mudd!

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Garbage in equals Garbage Out: A study in computer science as applied to JW doctrine

by Terry in

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1h4dynwkbyakgdibbwlibwtf2ruzpewcd5ipupvo-edm/edit?usp=sharing.

garbage in / garbage outthere is a saying about errors in computer science: garbage in / garbage outin computer science, garbage in, garbage out is the concept that flawed, or nonsense input data produces nonsense output.

rubbish in, rubbish out is an alternate wording.

enoughisenough

they claim to be shown to be God's chosen also because of the love they have among themselves. When you apply the "garbage in and the garbage" out, it explains why the people in the world who have consistently treated me the worst are JWs. "By their fruits, you will know them" ...their fruit fit only for the garbage heap!

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Pioneer Hours Update

by Bartolomeo in

regular pioneers: 600 per year, 50 on average per month.auxiliary pioneers: 30 hours per monthauxiliary pioneers in march and april: fee reduced to 15 hours.

enoughisenough

watch this video....spoiler-less pioneers with more hours comparison to more pioneers with less hours...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-aMecnuOR4

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bringing up the 1954 Walsh Trial

by enoughisenough in

i went back into this forum a little ways and found quite a bit of discussion on the walsh (1954) for those newly out or those who don't know of what i write, you should really check it out.

anyone who is a jw or studying with jw should see material from this trial.

my take away...the printed materials of the wtbts were to believed over the bible and if you didn't believe the wt teachings over the bible, ( even though they admit to false prophesy )you would be disfellowshipped and deserving of death.

enoughisenough

slimboyfat, the Walsh case may be old hat, but I had no knowledge of it until this mid 2022. Now you have intrigued me about the other case.

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bringing up the 1954 Walsh Trial

by enoughisenough in

i went back into this forum a little ways and found quite a bit of discussion on the walsh (1954) for those newly out or those who don't know of what i write, you should really check it out.

anyone who is a jw or studying with jw should see material from this trial.

my take away...the printed materials of the wtbts were to believed over the bible and if you didn't believe the wt teachings over the bible, ( even though they admit to false prophesy )you would be disfellowshipped and deserving of death.

enoughisenough

I went back into this forum a little ways and found quite a bit of discussion on the Walsh (1954) For those newly out or those who don't know of what I write, you should really check it out. Anyone who is a JW or studying with JW should see material from this trial. My take away...the printed materials of the WTBTS were to believed over the Bible and if you didn't believe the WT teachings over the Bible, ( even though they admit to false prophesy )you would be disfellowshipped and deserving of death. This was all brought out in the trial under oath by Fred Franz, and Hayden Covington and Grant Suitor ...///The JW haven't changed their tactics to this day...and that is why everyone should learn about this trial.

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Face-Masks - don't stop infection OR transmission!

by BoogerMan in

pores in surgical face-masks = 600 microns.

coronavirus = between 0.125 & 5 microns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qomrgfyfdie&t=227s.

enoughisenough

I still see people wearing mask. Did you see the videos of the kids on the floors working in the disposable mask production? Did you see the videos where the masks were under microscope and there were nano worms in the masks?

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Somehow I think nobody read the memo!

by LostintheFog1999 in

i came across an old notebook of mine when we were spring cleaning our attic space.. for some reason i had written down these two references from older wt magazines.. reading over the two of them now i can only think that elders didn't pay any attention to the message either at the time or since.

*** w75 8/1 p. 474 par.

14 elders presiding in a fine way ***.

enoughisenough

I listen to youtube videos while I work. I recently listened to an ex elder who mentioned back in the 80's the elder schools were training the elders to be kind to the sheep and not just go along with all of the other elders if they knew they were correct in something( short story-he was disfellowshipped because of his stand in being helpful to try to prosecute a pedophile ) In another video I listened to by an ex elder, he said the training school was all about following the guidelines of the GB and supporting the organization. In listening to these videos I came to the conclusion that over the years the focus of the elder school was to more fully indoctrinate the elders to trust the GB instead of a Bible trained conscience. Some of you who went to those schools may speak to my conclusion...

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Pioneer Hours Update

by Bartolomeo in

regular pioneers: 600 per year, 50 on average per month.auxiliary pioneers: 30 hours per monthauxiliary pioneers in march and april: fee reduced to 15 hours.

enoughisenough

in regard to the 1943 WT requirements, I read somewhere that the brothers were bulking at field service, but some had no problem with speaking from the pulpit. So the Lord settles the matter and everyone has an assignment. The thought about the war may have had some bearing , but if you want to build up a publishing empire, just require everyone to preach. ( sell the literature ) What I find interesting is how The Lord informed them-seems like he spoke directly to them the way it is written . Everyone who is studying today should see this publication so they would know why they need to get out there! I was thinking the people were very gullible to buy the Lord telling them such requirements, but then they buy the God knows they should trust the GB and let poison be injected.